Voigtländer Nokton 40 1.2

Discussion in 'Sony Alpha E-Mount Lenses' started by Deadbear77, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Sep 14, 2012
    Northeast Ohio
    Kevin
    So I’m starting this thread today, lens will be arriving tomorrow. I just checked out FM again and the sample images are looking very promising from the real world use. These guys are nailing focus, hopefully that means the peeking is working great with this lens. I’m getting very excited.

    Review to follow in the next couple days.
     
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  2. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Sep 14, 2012
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    Kevin
    Just tried out the lens. I don’t think it will be leaving my camera for a while. Don’t have time to upload samples right now but let me tell you it’s worth every penny.
     
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  3. chalkdust

    chalkdust TalkEmount Veteran

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    Bert Cheney
    I am very interested in your results with this lens. I love the 40mm focal length. I understand the reluctance to remove the new lens. My 65mm APO-Lanthar has not left my camera except for some comparison lens testing I did.

    I will just sit here and wait to see your images...don't leave me hanging....
     
  4. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

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    Kevin

    I’ll try to post some tomorrow morning. I’ll take some real world shots, indoor and out if it’s not raining at a couple different aperture. There is a ton of stuff on Fred Miranda on this lens. In my short time using it it felt like it was a perfect fit on the A7ii and the Rii. Perfectly balanced. From what I gather the 65mm is has more contrast and is a bit sharper. I don’t do many landscape pics, mostly of my kids right now and the focusing is a breeze. A little bit of glow in high contrast lettering at 1.2-1.7 Took a pic of my Sony 55 lettering. Images pop pretty nice and I love the 1/3rd stops. If you ever used the 35 1.2, this is way better wide open.
     
  5. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

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    Northeast Ohio
    Kevin
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    Here are a couple of unscientific shots, all at 1.2 to show what the lens is made of. These are all straight out of camera JPG Natural +3 +1 +3

    Full and crops.

    More to come.
     
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  6. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks Super Moderator Subscribing Member

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    David
    Dayum!
     
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  7. chalkdust

    chalkdust TalkEmount Veteran

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    Bert Cheney
    If. you have been keeping up with the comments at Fred Miranda, you probably also have read the review on Phillip Reeve's blog at phillipreeve.net

    David Braddon-Mitchell did a useful review and gives some good tips for best focus techniques for landscape.

    Kevin, these wide open shots you shared here are very impressive! I suspect you are going to find it to be very useful for shots of family gatherings (you mention your kids) and activities. With a 40mm field of view to show the context and f/1.2 for those poorly lit places, I predict gigabytes of kids and family! (and cats, maybe)
     
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  8. addieleman

    addieleman Passionate amateur Subscribing Member

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    Ad Dieleman
    How's the manual focussing with this lens?
     
  9. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

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    Kevin
    Best I’ve ever used.
     
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  10. chalkdust

    chalkdust TalkEmount Veteran

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    Bert Cheney
    I have a theory about the ease of manual focus. Of course like many of my other theories, it could be utterly wrong. I have noticed that manual focus with the 65mm APO-Lanthar is easier than I expected also. So my guess is that these lenses are providing enough high contrast resolution to drive the sensor into Nyquist aliasing and moire when the focus is right. So under magnified view there is a sparkle or vivid pop when you nail focus.

    Anyway, whatever the reason, it is nice to have an easy to focus manual lens!
     
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  11. ggibson

    ggibson TalkEmount Regular

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    This is a tasty lens for sure! f1.2 seems quite usable as long as you can handle a bit of CA on bright edges. I have been lurking in the FM thread, and I love the sunstars this lens can put out as wide open as f2.8 :eek-30:

    What's your take on using this vs. the 55/1.8? If you have a chance, it'd be interesting to see a side by side comparisons of same framing and same distance to see how bokeh looks wide open.
     
  12. Deadbear77

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    My two sons had a birthday party today, used the 40 1.2 exclusively. Focusing was a breeze. Here are a couple samples straight out of camera jpg from A7rii 18mp setting. First pic is a crop of the second picture to show how good this lens renders.
     

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  13. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

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    Kevin
    These are two totally different feels, I really don’t have the time to do a side by side, sorry. 55 is a great lens don’t get me wrong, but I like manual focus better. The manual focus on the zeiss just doesn’t feel good to me. The zeiss beats it in sharpness wide open of course, but at f2.2 it’s pretty even. Zeiss lens to me has little to no character. Very sharp and to the point. The 40mm has a lot of character. I really like the focal length because it’s a little wider than normal and does not have the same “distortion” you would get with a 35mm. So it’s kind of the best of both worlds. Right between 35-55. Nice for me because I usually feel 35 is too wide sometimes and 55 too narrow. I really never bonded with my zeiss 55 like I did with the 24 1.8 on apsc. That lens is In my top 3 of all time.
     
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  14. JonathanF2

    JonathanF2 TalkEmount Veteran

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    Looks good @ 1.2! Renders similar to the CV 40mm 1.4 Nokton, but seems sharper wide open. I wish this lens came in Leica M mount, that way it can be mounted onto a Techart Pro adapter for AF!
     
  15. serhan

    serhan TalkEmount All-Pro

    Aug 27, 2011
    NYC
    The M mount is going to be released in November:
    vm-40mm F1.2

    It looks sharper then CV 35mm 1.2/1.4 and 40mm 1.4 lenses.

     
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  16. JonathanF2

    JonathanF2 TalkEmount Veteran

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    Oh no, I better hide my wallet! :D
     
  17. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Sep 14, 2012
    Northeast Ohio
    Kevin
    You will get closer focus with the e mount version, Plus exif data. I also don’t think it will render as well, at least on A7 series. But if you want “autofocus” I guess that’s the balance you get.
     
  18. mattia

    mattia TalkEmount Regular

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    Good stuff! My CV 35/1.2 II is almost always on my A7r when people shooting, but from the pics this might be a worthy contender for an at least as good, more compact lens. But I already have the 35/1.2, so I'll probably wait until something second hand shows up. Maybe. Tempting.