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Thinking of building a m42 library. Any suggestions to start with?

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by Synomis192, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. Synomis192

    Synomis192 TalkEmount Regular

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    May 26, 2013
    I just ordered a MD Lens Turbo, unfortunatly the seller won't be shipping it till later this weeks. So I decided to look into different sellers.

    Anyways, I found that most users of the LT have a lot of success with the m42 mount and the adapter. Anyone have any insight or would like to talk about m42 lens?

    I've been considering getting a Yashica AutoYashinon-DX 50mm f1.7 as my first m42 mount. But I'm honestly lost with the whole mount system for that. I mean, for the m42 mount, I see Yashica, Pentax, and others. I don't know which to choose if I get started. Also, If I'm not mistake, most m42 lenses are actually pricey for being legacy lenses.

    I'd like to know more about m42 mounts and which lenses I should look at.

    I plan to replace the lenses that are stated in my signature over a period of time. So consult that to give me suggestions haha.
     
  2. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    Takumars are pretty good but not cheap. With M42 there very many manufacturers and even more brand under they were sold.

    With lens turbo one is either seeking faster lenses on shorter focal length so I would concentrate to these aspects. Ultrawide legacy lences are pricey and only relatively cheap fast lenses are around 50mm.
     
  3. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    Good quality fast 135mm lens might be pretty nice with Lens Turbo too.
     
  4. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Sep 14, 2012
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    Kevin
    You may as well use an 85mm without a turbo, image quality would be better.


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  5. dsiglin

    dsiglin TalkEmount Veteran

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    Apr 23, 2013
    Greenville, SC
    The first lens I would recommend: Helios 44m-7 or 44m-6.
     
  6. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    Certainly. The point is if you have lens turbo you can use that 135mm lens as 100mm lens and 135mm lenses are cheap.
     
  7. bmg123

    bmg123 TalkEmount Veteran

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    Jan 15, 2013
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    +1

    Great sharpness and excellently shallow DOF.
     
  8. Synomis192

    Synomis192 TalkEmount Regular

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    May 26, 2013
    Something interesting I've also noticed is that a lot of the M42 images have a purple-ish tint to them. It may bother me in the long run but how do you guys think the colors compare to other mounts.

    I have an MD Rokkor-X 50mm f/1.7 and I do like the color rendition. So would it be worth it to move to a Takumar 50mm 1.4 or jump to the MD 50mm f/1.4

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  9. f/otographer

    f/otographer TalkEmount Regular

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    Aug 20, 2013
    The M42 mount has nothing to do with the color you will receive from the lens. M42 was an open source mount that was available to anyone who wanted to make a lens and use it. These lenses were made by everyone under the sun with quality ranging from fantastic to abysmal. Some of the better ones are as follows

    Carl Zeiss Jena (the name speaks for itself)
    Yashica Yashinon (Get the DS-M's, they have a multicoating where the DS and DX lenses dont. Made by Tomioka)
    Pentax Takumar (some of the best multi coatings ever put on an M42 lens)
    Fujinon EBC (excellent glass and coatings)
    Mamiya Sekor (the Auto lenses, not SX or the others. Those have weird pins on them and wont mount right. Reported to be made by Tomioka)

    There are of course many others. The former Soviet Union lenses, Helios and Jupiters and such, are Russian copies of the the Zeiss lenses that were in Germany at the end of the war. The part of Germany that the Russians took over had a Zeiss factory in it and they kept cranking out those lenses. Those are the Zeiss Jena lenses you will encounter. They also copied the blueprints and machinery for shipment back to Russia where they started cranking our the Helios copies (and others) in the MILLIONS. You can find these Russian M42's all over the place for little money. Plan on going thru A LOT of them before you find one that is a keeper. They are great lenses to be sure, basically the same as Zeiss, but the quality control was horrible in the Soviet factories.

    You will actually run into the age issue with many M42 lenses. They are simply becoming ancient. Many are in need of a good CLA (clean lube adjust) and that can add to the price of the lens. However if you find a keeper they are capable of producing incredible photography.

    The nicest M42 that I have ever encountered is my 1959 Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2. Got it at a garage sale for $25 bucks. Focusing is sort of stiff but the lens is a gem. Here is the lens on my NEX and some examples from it.

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    Its a sharp lens with wonderful out of focus rendering qualities. Sometime I think it exhibits Nisen bokeh but it has never bothered me. All around its a great lens if you can find it in good shape. 10 aperture blades as well. The russian copy of this is the Helios 44-2, also very nice.
     
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  10. f/otographer

    f/otographer TalkEmount Regular

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    Aug 20, 2013
    Here are some examples from some other M42 lenses I have used. You will not find a Minolta like color rendering from any M42 lens. Minolta lenses are pretty unique in the way they render a scene which is why they are my favorite lenses ever.

    Mamiya Sekor 55/1.8

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    And a few from the venerable Pentax Takumar SMC 50/1.4, a solid lens.

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    here is a good example of the painterly quality the Pentax can sometimes render.
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    That last photo is straight out of the camera.
     
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  11. bopfan

    bopfan TalkEmount Regular

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    Denny
    The nicest M42 that I have ever encountered is my 1959 Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2. Got it at a garage sale for $25 bucks.


    Ouch...that was quite a bargain! In fact you stole it at that price!
     
  12. Synomis192

    Synomis192 TalkEmount Regular

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    May 26, 2013
    Wow, that Mamiya looks really nice and creamy. I do like the bokeh rendition this lens gives! I always thought Mamiya was a Medium Format lens manufacturer haha
     
  13. dsiglin

    dsiglin TalkEmount Veteran

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    Apr 23, 2013
    Greenville, SC
    Fun fact. The Helios is a CZ Jenna Biotar Russian knockoff. Say that five times fast.
     
  14. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    It is even very good copy. Build quality varies a lot and many lenses are in bad shape so it pays to shop around.
     
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  15. dsiglin

    dsiglin TalkEmount Veteran

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    Apr 23, 2013
    Greenville, SC
    Oh yeah, I love it, I'd recommend the 44m-6 or -7 due to them having multicoating and being newer (90s). Can't wait to try them on a FF A7. Not that I'll have the money for one for that camera for a while. :D