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Featured The great big zoom debate

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by quezra, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. Sony FE 24-70/2.8 GM

    6 vote(s)
  2. Sony FE 24-105/4 G

    24 vote(s)
  3. Tamron 28-75/2.8

    21 vote(s)
  4. Sony FE 24-70/4 Z

    5 vote(s)
  5. Other

    2 vote(s)
  1. Arutemu

    Arutemu TalkEmount Veteran

    Jun 11, 2015
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  2. Arutemu

    Arutemu TalkEmount Veteran

    Jun 11, 2015
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  3. Linden

    Linden New to TalkEmount

    Aug 11, 2018
    I chose the 24-70 2.8 GM for a few reasons. Probably the most glaring reason is that the Tamron and Sony have been out of stock essentially ever since I bought my A7iii, or I might have considered them more. I’m also coming from shooting Canon (which I still own), where I’ve used 24-70 2.8’s for years, as well as owning their 24-105 f/4 for a few years. I liked both, but ended up always going back to the 2.8 for its low light ability and subject separation. I also shoot an occasional event/wedding where the IQ, low light ability, and bokeh are all nice features to have. If I want to travel light, I kept the 28-70 kit lens for that.
  4. bdbits

    bdbits TalkEmount All-Pro

    Sep 10, 2015
    :Welcome: Welcome to talkemount, Linden.
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  5. Schwingi

    Schwingi New to TalkEmount

    Sep 15, 2018
    Linz, Austria
    Torn apart between the 24-105 and 28-75 Tamron... Reach vs Bang for the buck (half the price in my country), plus f2,8 vs f4...
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  6. Iansky

    Iansky TalkEmount Regular

    Sep 12, 2018
    Cotswolds, UK
    Ian Lloyd-Graham
    I picked up a used (like new) Sony Zeiss 24-70 f4 OSS and it is a superb lens when coupled with the A7iii, I did not want a large lens and I can live without f2.8 so for me it is the right choice.
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  7. mstphoto

    mstphoto TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Feb 26, 2016
    Aberdeen, NE Scotland
    Mike Stephen
    I'd choose the 24-105 as its my favourite focal range.
    I already have the 24-70 f4 for use on my a7rii and find it to be a really good lens so have no reason to change it for the 24-105.
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  8. Kiwi Paul

    Kiwi Paul TalkEmount All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Feb 14, 2016
    Aberdeen, Scotland
    I also have the 24-70 f4 on my A72 and find it absolutely fine, I'd prefer the 24-105 f4 for the extra reach but it's not worth my while upgrading.
    I like 24mm at the wide end on a walkabout lens for me 28mm isn't wide enough so I'd never consider the Tamron 28-75 but YMMV as they say.
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  9. JonathanF2

    JonathanF2 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Aug 16, 2014
    Los Angeles, USA
    So I went through the Sony 28-70mm kit lens, Zeiss 24-70mm f4, Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 and Sony 24-240mm. The kit lens is the cheapest and image quality not bad, but the build quality is super cheap. I liked the Zeiss 24-70mm f4, but I prefer rubber zoom rings. The Tamron was optically great, but 28mm is limiting for some event work I do. I liked the build on the 24-240mm, but overall it had the weakest image quality (worst than the kit). The 24-105mm probably would be my best option, but for the price I'm not going to pay that much for an f4 zoom.

    I've decided zooms are not for me when it comes to Sony. I'll stay with primes!
  10. SpecFoto

    SpecFoto TalkEmount Regular Subscribing Member

    Sep 1, 2018
    So Cal Desert
    I feel the same way, but I am interested in picking up the Sony 70-200mm f4, as that is a zoom I would use. Know you have that one, do you plan on keeping it?
  11. dbmiller

    dbmiller TalkEmount All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2012
    New England
    I started with the 24-240, and have since picked up used copies of the 70-200G, 24-70GM, 24-105G and 12-24G. After comparing the 24-240 with the 70-200G, the 24-240 has been sold. It was "good enough" to begin with on the A6000, but the A7RM3 really showed me the difference. But the OP wasn't really asking about those, so we move on...

    I have not shot with the 28-75 - I do have the 28F2 prime, and find that 28 is often just not wide enough for me, so I prefer the 24mm wide end. As for the long end, the extra reach of the 24-105G, and the fact that it weighs less than the GM, is really nice for a general lens.

    I took all the G's and the GM to a park yesterday, and while the GM at f/2.8 does nice things to the background, it's only useful for portraits. For my landscape shots, I'm shooting at f/8, and both lenses are pretty equal. I'm going to have to do a little more testing, but my initial impression is that the 24-105G has a little more micro-contrast, giving a slightly more pleasing look to many shots. I'm going to have to re-test though, as I the actual indoor comparison shots I did indoors were in aperture priority mode, and I let the shutter speed be set by the camera. Even though the lighting, ISO, and aperture were fixed, the shutter speed tended to vary by one-third stop, so the transmission of each lens does not appear to be equal. This may be why the 24-105 out performed the GM in some cases. I need to re-evaluate at some point when I have more time.

    For portraits, I really like the 24-70GM wide open at or near the long end. If that was my main interest, I might prefer the 28-75, and wish I had the 16-35 instead of the 12-24, but my wife shot at the park with the 12-24 on the A6000, and liked it, so the 10-18 has also been sold. I'm starting to really like the idea of carrying the 12-24G, 24-105G, and 70-200G around, and going with the 24-105 when I want one lens, or the 24-70GM when I know I'm doing portraits.
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  12. JonathanF2

    JonathanF2 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Aug 16, 2014
    Los Angeles, USA
    I had it, but I recently sold it. Image quality was solid, but I compared it to the Nikon 70-200mm f4 VR and the Nikon was much sharper with better colors and contrast. There's rumors a Sony 135mm 1.8 GM will be announced, so I might give that a try on the long end once it's released.
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  13. Blu30nyx

    Blu30nyx TalkEmount Regular

    Nov 14, 2018
    Tamron 28-75/2.8 for me. I originally got it because it was on special but I have really grown to love it. It takes amazing shots when you know what you are doing with it.
  14. Richard Crowe

    Richard Crowe TalkEmount Veteran Subscribing Member

    Sep 14, 2018
    Is the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 lens for Sony E Mount the same package as the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 that was made for Canon and Nikon simply with a different mount or are there some other differences to justify the almost double price that Tamron charges for the Sony mount lens over the prices of the 28-75mm with Canon or Nikon mount.

    When the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 was introduced for the Canon, I tested it against the 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 that I was using at the time. The image quality was roughly the same, the Tamron had the constant f/2.8 aperture but, the Canon lens focused faster and it seemed more accurately...
  15. Biro

    Biro TalkEmount Regular Subscribing Member

    Oct 21, 2012
    The Sony version of the Tamron 28-75 is different. We’ve been discussing it here:

    Difference between Canon and Sony mount Tamron 28-75mm
  16. Richard Crowe

    Richard Crowe TalkEmount Veteran Subscribing Member

    Sep 14, 2018
    I opted for the Sony APSC mirrorless system because of the size and weight. I tend to mostly use primes and I like to shoot with a pair of cameras. Right now, my camera is the A6500 and I am waiting to pair it up with its successor (A6700 - A7000 or ???). If I were to get a zoom to add to this collection, size/image quality would be the factors in my choice. Zoom range would not necessarily be a deciding factor since I could have a shorter.longer prime on the other camera...
    Actually, if I were shooting full frame, I would probably opt for the trio of Tamron zooms 17-28mm, 28-75mm, and what Tamron will soon deliver in the 70-200mm or 70-300mm range...
  17. quezra

    quezra TalkEmount All-Pro

    Aug 22, 2012
    I've finally got myself a 24-105G... Got a great price on a used one so it was a no-brainer, but such is my (lack of) time these days that I haven't actually shot anything but test shots with it! The guy who sold it was a Canon user who'd briefly dabbled with Sony and he said he's not had a zoom lens that sharp in his Canon lineup! Well he went back to Canon with their mirrorless offerings, hope he gets the lens he wants.
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  18. Richard Crowe

    Richard Crowe TalkEmount Veteran Subscribing Member

    Sep 14, 2018
    Congratulations on your new lens. As I mentioned earlier, I tend to shoot with primes on my A6400 and A6500 cameras. However, I made an exception for my "Honeydo" pictures of family affairs.
    Since the images I shoot are destined only for social media, the little and relatively inexpensive Sony 28-70mm f/3.5-5.6 is all I need. I carry a tiny camera bag with one of the cameras as well as the small Godox 350 flash and diffuser.
    I also use the small zoom for documenting the adoptions of my rescue dogs.
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