Sony A7r Tests with a bunch of manual lenses (and some E mount lenses)

Discussion in 'Sony Alpha E-Mount Cameras' started by kmbahar, Jan 7, 2014.

  1. kmbahar

    kmbahar TalkEmount Rookie

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    Khairil M Bahar
    Hi all! First time posting here. After getting info from this site on a bunch of E mount related things, thought I'd share some samples I took of my A7r with a bunch of manual lenses. I'm mostly a filmmaker and use the Sony FS-100 with a VG20 and NEX-7 when I need some B cameras, but when the A7r came out I knew I had to grab it. I did a bunch of tests with the lenses I had plus a bunch of lenses I recently ordered from eBay. I also did a few with my autofocus E mount lenses which are APS-C cropped.

    Hope you like the sample pics below and there's a whole write up on my blog with more samples (as well as a video sample in the first link) about the tests:

    http://www.khairilmbahar.com/post/70283419692/sony-a7r-with-manual-focus-lenses-thoughts-tests
    http://www.khairilmbahar.com/post/72442577121/more-sony-a7r-manual-lens-tests-canon-fd-35mm-f2

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    Canon FD 50mm f1.4, 1/50th, ISO 1000

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    Minolta AF 24-50mm f4 at 24mm, 1/125th, ISO 500

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    Minolta AF 24-50mm f4 at 50mm, 1/50th, ISO 8000

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    Samyang 14mm T3.1 (Cine lens) at 1/50th, ISO 1000

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    Canon FD 35mm f2, 1/100th, ISO 1250

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    Tamron Adaptall 2 24mm f2.5, 1/125th, ISO 2500

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    Canon FD 135mm f2.8, 1/125th, ISO 800

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    Sony E mount 35mm f1.8 (APS-C Crop), 1/50th, ISO 2000

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    Sony E mount 16mm f2.8 (APS-C Crop), 1/125th, ISO 250
     
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  2. NickCyprus

    NickCyprus Super Moderator

    Oct 11, 2012
    Cyprus
    Nick
    A nice series of photos - welcome ;)
     
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  3. serhan

    serhan TalkEmount All-Pro

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    Welcome and thanks for the nice photos:)
     
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  4. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks Super Moderator

    Dec 12, 2012
    Ashland, OR, USA
    David
    Yes, welcome, Khairil! And thanks for the informative and well-shot first post. That Canon FD 135 may be on my soon-to-buy list. Or maybe the Minolta 24-50. Or maybe... :p
     
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  5. Bimjo

    Bimjo Super Moderator

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    Jim
    Welcome to the forum. :)
     
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  6. izTheViz

    izTheViz TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Indeed....nice ! Already have the fd 50,135 and will get th 35 tomorrow.
    I am more and more tempted to buy the A7 when in Bangkok.
     
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  7. John D.

    John D. TalkEmount Regular

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    Oct 7, 2013
    A great first post to the forum - Welcome and thank you!

    As well - is that Samyang 14mm T3.1 (Cine lens) the native e-Mount version.? If so, are you getting full frame on your A7 from it? Interestingly, I was looking at that yesterday on-line, as I need an ultra-wide for architectural interiors. It doesn't have to be superb optically, as most of the shots for the clients are simply posted on the web in lower resolutions.

    Anyway - welcome aboard - and terrific image comparisons in your post!

    - John
     
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  8. kmbahar

    kmbahar TalkEmount Rookie

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    Khairil M Bahar
    Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! Will be posting a few more tests soon, though I'm guessing I should be posting them on the legacy lens thread? Anyway, got my 100mm f2.8 Canon FD in the mail today which I haven't tested yet, hopefully will take that out for a spin tomorrow.

    Thanks again!
     
  9. kmbahar

    kmbahar TalkEmount Rookie

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    Jan 7, 2014
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    Khairil M Bahar
    The 14mm T3.1 was an A mount lens (when I bought my Samyang cine lenses I chose A mount for some reason, not sure why) with a cheap China-made adapter. I'm quite sure the E mount version is full frame ready as from what I understand they just took the same lenses, extended the barrel and made it an E mount, but strangely I haven't managed to find much info on the E mount Samyang's.

    Optically, the only tricky thing in full frame is focusing when you're wide open, but at f5.6 onwards you're pretty much safe and in lower resolutions it'll be fine. Hopefully that helps!
     
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  10. kmbahar

    kmbahar TalkEmount Rookie

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    Hi Woodworks! Thanks for the welcome! Just wanted to mention re the Minolta 24-50 - bit tricky to manual focus on the AF version since it doesn't have a dedicated focus ring, in case that affects your choice of future purchases ;)

    Also wanted to ask - noticed on your info you have an FD 24mm f2.8. How's that lens on the A7? I'm holding out for a 24mm f2 but am curious about the 2.8.
     
  11. John D.

    John D. TalkEmount Regular

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    Oct 7, 2013
    Outstanding information - thank you!!! That is exactly the info I needed..!

    Many thanks!

    As well - I hope the postman didn't leave that new Canon lens in your driveway in the rain, as they did previously??!!! ;)

    John
     
  12. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks Super Moderator

    Dec 12, 2012
    Ashland, OR, USA
    David
    Mine is a touch soft and low contrast wide open, but sharpens up nicely across the frame by f/3.5. My plan is to use it mainly for wide landscapes, mostly around f/8, so the initial softness doesn't really mean anything to me. I can highly recommend the lens if your desires are similar to mine.

    I recently posted a few samples in the adapted lens sample archive pages, including a couple wide open.
     
  13. kmbahar

    kmbahar TalkEmount Rookie

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    Thankfully not! This time they came to my house in the two hours I didn't happen to be in, left a note and I had to go pick it up. It's a 100mm f2.8. So far, not the best one of the lot in terms of condition - the focus ring is REALLY stiff. Haven't tried it out enough yet but at first glance I think the optics are ok. Fingers crossed!
     
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  14. kmbahar

    kmbahar TalkEmount Rookie

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    Jan 7, 2014
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    Khairil M Bahar
    The shots look great! But yeah, as you can probably tell from my samples I often do a lot of lowlight wide open or a stop or two down for sharpness. It's so annoying how rare the f2 is. If I find the f2.8 at a decent price, might just pick it up to complete my Canon FD set. eBay is too addictive. Eek.
     
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  15. izTheViz

    izTheViz TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Yannis Marigo
    One question btw, are you shooting in crop mode with your FDs or FF ? Don't see much vigneting.
     
  16. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks Super Moderator

    Dec 12, 2012
    Ashland, OR, USA
    David
    Is that question directed at me? If so, I'm shooting FF will all of my FD lenses.
     
  17. izTheViz

    izTheViz TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    To anyone shooting FD on A7. Thank you. I can't wait buying mine in 10 days...just got another FD this morning (35/2)
     
  18. kmbahar

    kmbahar TalkEmount Rookie

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    Khairil M Bahar
    Nope, shooting in full frame (though the shot with the 135mm was accidentally in crop mode). So far the only lens I've found with some vignetting and soft edges is the tamron 24mm f2.5.