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Sony A7 system weight vs... Fuji?

mesmerized

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Hi folks,

Recently I've noticed that taking my camera with me (a7mk3) has been... a bit of a drag. The weight of my camera even if combined with the 28-75 Tamron and an extra lens or two in my bag can definitely be felt when I'm walking around or cycling. I was wondering if there's someone here who could say whether the Fuji system is much lighter than the Sony one. I used carry my Olympus em5mk2 everywhere and it was such a pleasure... so I'm considering moving back to a non-ff system, if the weight advatange is there.

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Instead of changing/adding another system to your A7, have you seen the last sigma I series (28-70 2.8, 24, 35 and 65mm), and samyang tiny primes (18 2.8, 35 1.8, 45 1.8, 75 1.8).
Those all are small and light prime lenses.

Sure, if you need 2.8 zoom, with f.e. a Fuji xe and its 18-55 2.8-4 you should stay on about 700gr.
 

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My A7MII with 24-105mm F 4 G Zoom is 1276g ( would be 1376g with A7MIII)
My A6500 with 16-70mm F4 Zoom is 803g ( would be 853g with A6600)
If i add the 24mm F 1.8 for low light to the APS-C kit, i am now at 1028g

Both have the same 24 Mpix and 24-105mm FF equivalent coverage

So for anything that involves travel or carrying, which one do you think i will take with me ?
 

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Fujifilm cameras of the same generation (A7iii vs Fuji X-T3 and Fuji X-T30 for example) are generally smaller and lighter, but also didn't have IBIS until recently. The systems with IBIS (X-H1, X-T4) are hardly any lighter than recent Sony models.
 

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The new X-S10 is small, and light, and has IBIS. Still won’t touch the AF of the Sony, but OOC jpegs are lovely. Samyang lenses on an A7x body are pretty nice and compact, but I have finally given up on the handling of my A7Rii, and the ever present need to fiddle with raw files to get colors as I want them. I have a Fuji X-H1 on the way. It won’t save me any weight over the A7Rii (they are within a few grams of each other) but the ergos and dials suit my style of shooting better. Also, the lenses on the whole are smaller and I’m looking forward to playing with the gorgeous film simulations in the jpeg processing. I’ll continue to shoot often with my NEX-3n, and a6300 for some things, but the Fuji will be my main body. Unless I hate it. Then who knows?
 

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The Fuji system can be lighter but not always. I have an A7Riii and had an XH1. No advantage there. I'll bet it's similar for the XT4. I now have an X-S10 and it's smaller and lighter. Both systems have some small primes and Fuji's fast zooms are lighter.
 
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Well, Fuji also recently switched to bigger batteries in the X-T4. I guess the "normal vs Boost mode" settings no longer satisfied.
 

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I recommend A7C+28-60mm kit lens plus small Samyang primes to make a smaller FF system... Sony a7C [509 g] weights 3% (13 grams) more than Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark II [496 g]:
https://camerasize.com/compare/#858,594

A7C vs EM5 II vs X-S10 comparison with equivalent dof lenses, 28-60 vs 12-35 vs 18-55, shows A7C as smallest/lightest (676g vs 801g vs 775g) combo: https://j.mp/3bDHnOg

If you want a longer reach, A6400+18-135 is a good option again, smaller than the Fuji or FF options...
 
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I would not spend two grand or so to end up with a camera and lens combination that had a lukewarm 28-60mm focal range along with a equally lukewarm f/4-5.6 variable aperture. I simply do not consider that combination versatile enough to warrant that price.
I simply could not live without my mid-range zoom having a maximum aperture of less than f/4 and preferably f/2.8.
I would rather shoot with a bridge camera if weight was so important.
 
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mesmerized

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Hi there!

Sorry, I was gone for a while.

I think for me it's not really about primes (both systems offer small primes after all), it's mainly about standard zooms, such as 70-200.

I'd add Canon to the mix. Their 70-200 f/4 is such a light thing to carry around. It's compact, too. I think it's lighter than the Tammy 70-180 f/2.8, and comes with stabilization. The only problem is... the only Canon body worth looking at is the r5.

I really wish Sony could deliver such a lens, but I doubt it's ever gonna happen.
 

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Pick up the new Sony 28-60mm pancake'ish zoom. I might get one just for the smaller size or maybe look into the A7C.

Actually I don't bother carrying any of my FF cameras when cycling, I usually carry my Nikon 1 J5 with a 1" sensor instead!
 

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The Sony 6xxx series of cameras are great. My travel camera is the A6300 and it offers a big bang for the buck. I use my 7R3 much more often with the70-200 and or the 24-105 and I don't find it as a burden. Maybe you could research a better carry-system.
 

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I actually added stuff up:

Sony A7R4 + Sony 100-400 = 4.5 lbs (I don't actually have this lens, got the weight from sony's website)
Fuji X-H1 + Fuji 100-400 = 4.5 lbs

Of course, the X-H1 is Fuji's beefiest camera, excepting the GFX series.
 
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I actually added stuff up:

Sony A7R4 + Sony 100-400 = 4.5 lbs (I don't actually have this lens, got the weight from sony's website)
Fuji X-H1 + Fuji 100-400 = 4.5 lbs

Of course, the X-H1 is Fuji's beefiest camera, excepting the GFX series.
The XT4 is only 66 grams lighter than the XH1.
 

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OK, let's rule out Fuji. Canon's 70-200 f/4 is surpisingly light for what it offers. For me it's mainly about this particular focal length. If I knew Sony would come up with a new iteration of their f/4 in a compact form factor, I'd stick with them, but I doubt they will. They seem to be focusing on proving everyone wrong with their new f/1.2 lenses...
 

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