and have learned that group portraits are more challenging than single portraits. After seeing some of my other portraits, a mother asked me to shoot portraits of her family of 5. Here's what I learned. Forget shooting "wide-open" unless you only want one of the 10 eyes in the photo in focus. Even f/4 is a challenge depending on the focal length and distance to subjects. Way too many of my photos were out of focus and had to be discarded. Posing a group is challenging and hard work. Also requires some experience, patience (on both ends) and feel for your subjects. Small details matter - where a hand is placed, how the hand looks, head tilts, smiles, hair out of place, clothing, etc, etc. all multiplied by the number of people in the photo. Family dynamics can throw you for a loop. Tension between spouse and arguments among siblings are to be expected. Have to make sure the group stays focused on the shoot. Check your settings before and during the shoot. I started out shooting a FE 85mm 1.8 w/ steady shot then switched to my Olympus 50mm OM 1.4 - but the manual IBIS was set to a focal length of 28mm! Didn't pick up on that until later - more blurry shots!. Again - patience is important. I had 2 parents and 3 teenagers on a chilly afternoon. The mother was really the only one that wanted to be there. There were times I felt the pressure of the "annoyed" teens as I was prepping for the next shot and felt myself rushing. Have a plan - I knew the area we were going to and had in my mind the spots I wanted to shoot at - I also researched and had with me a number of sample poses for a group of 5. In the end I ended up with a good number of keepers, but as I was editing the photos I was wishing I had a second chance. It was a real learning experience. Here are a few... ILCE-7RM2    FE 85mm F1.8    85mm    f/4.0    1/80s    ISO 100 ILCE-7RM2    ----          1/640s    ISO 100 I used my Godox 685 speedlight, Godox X1t trigger and umbrella for the last ones. ILCE-7RM2    ----          1/60s    ISO 640 ILCE-7RM2    ----          1/60s    ISO 400 ILCE-7RM2    ----          1/60s    ISO 320 ILCE-7RM2    ----          1/50s    ISO 160 ILCE-7RM2    ----          1/50s    ISO 250 Feedback welcome!