Sigma: differences in old or new DN lenses?

Discussion in 'Sony Alpha E-Mount Lenses' started by jeffryscott, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. jeffryscott

    jeffryscott TalkEmount Regular

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    Jul 7, 2014
    Just wondering from users of both new and old Sigma 19 and 30 lenses whether there is any difference between old and new? Optically, they are supposed to be the same, but anecdotally, it seems the new Art version (smooth barrel) gets slightly better reviews.

    Anybody moved from the old to new and notice a difference?

    Thanks! (did try searching, but nothing came up with my search phrases.)
     
  2. davect01

    davect01 Super Moderator

    Aug 20, 2011
    Fountain Hills, AZ
    Dave
    According to the specs there is no real difference.
     
  3. Jman13

    Jman13 TalkEmount Regular

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    Jul 4, 2014
    However, from tests I've seen, they have changed the coatings a fair bit, which lowers CA. SLR gear tested the 30/2.8 Art as halving half the CA as the original version.

    I know my 19mm looks to be a bit sharper than most test sites report the edges (though it's still a bit soft in the corners, it's not bad). I own all 3 Art versions, and the 19mm is very good, the 30mm is really excellent and the 60mm is utterly phenomenal (among the sharpest lenses I've ever used, and I have probably owned 100 lenses and I've tested and reviewed another 30-40 on top of that.)
     
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  4. jeffryscott

    jeffryscott TalkEmount Regular

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    Jul 7, 2014
    Thanks Jman, I trust your eye for these things!


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  5. NickCyprus

    NickCyprus Super Moderator

    Oct 11, 2012
    Cyprus
    Nick
    I think the 60mm will be my next e-mount lens purchase. Unless Sony comes up with a 60-90mm fast portrait lens which will not cost Zeiss money...
     
  6. Hin Man

    Hin Man TalkEmount Regular

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    Jan 18, 2013
    You won't regret your purchase of Sigma 60mm. I wrote on my blog post -- If you like Sigma 30, you will love Sigma 60.



    Like JMan has mentioned, the Sigma 60 is sharp and it has very good image quality and price is very reasonable. And in a pinch, I use it on my A7 in non-crop mode and correct vignette in post processing -- I do need to take out the rear baffle to deal with the vignette

    I met Chewy last weekend while doing the Smog check for my wife's car. I have my Sigma 60 and nex 5N to do some causal shots on Chewy.

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    Not great shots to show off the lens but casual shots with p&s mentality and the lens does beautifully. And a crop to show the eye's reflection

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    All shot with Sigma 60mm f/2.8 and nex 5N

    Cheers,
    Hin
     
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  7. WNG

    WNG TalkEmount All-Pro

    Aug 12, 2014
    Arrid Zone-A, USA
    Will
    Fantastic photos! Nothing but raves for the 60mm I've read too. How does it compare to the Sony 50mm f1.8? Is the 60mm still worth getting if one already has the 50mm?
    The 30mm is next on the buy list.
    I love my 19mm EX DN.
     
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  8. Hin Man

    Hin Man TalkEmount Regular

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    Jan 18, 2013
    I have the Sony E 50mm f/1.8. After getting the 1st version of Sigma 30, I like it so much that I splurge for the Sigma 19mm. With the fondness in using the Sigma 19/30 as a pair in outing, I ignore the presence of Sony E 50mm and went on to buy the Sigma 60mm. No regrets in getting all three. It is difficult and not-rational but I like the three Sigma's and I use them the most often. The E 50mm f/1.8 will beat the Sigma 60 for indoor, lower lighting, but in general purpose use and longer lens for portrait, the Sigma 60 wins in sharpness and dependable image quality in wide open f/2.8 aperture. The E 50mm f/1.8 has better overall color and bokeh. My comment is based off my experience with NEX 5N. If you have latest model with a6000, the AF should work faster with the E 50. With nex 5n, my E 50 has more hunting and slower AF and strangely, I always find the AF with my Sigma dependable except those extreme low light shooting scenarios as in iso 3200 indoor or very dark and demanding scenes.

    Cheers,
    Hin
     
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  9. davect01

    davect01 Super Moderator

    Aug 20, 2011
    Fountain Hills, AZ
    Dave
    I went a different route. The 19/30 Sigma combo are hard to beat, especially for the price.

    However, when shopping for either the 50mm or 60mm, I wanted the extra F stop, and was also able to find a 50mm SEL for $70 less than the 60mm Sigma.
     
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  10. Hin Man

    Hin Man TalkEmount Regular

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    Jan 18, 2013
    You get outstanding price for your E 50mm f/1.8.

    Now that we discuss on the E 50 vs the Sigma 60, I have a difficult thought in toying the idea of letting go of my E 50mm f/1.8. I bought it new way back when I get my Sony NEX 5N. I still love it but I am someone cursed with cycle(s) with LBA (lens buying addiction) and now I am in the short cycle of unloading and simplifying. I got my A7 late last year and I have the FE 35mm f/2.8 though I am saving up for the FE 55mm f/1.8. I need to ask around if FE 55mm f/1.8 works great on E-mount camera as well as it does on full frame mount. Mentally I can justify my expenses better if I sell the E 50mm f/1.8 before buying the expensive FE 55mmf f/1.8. However, I can't find myself selling the Sigma 60mm as I just happen to like it a lot for E-mount use.

    The following shot was made last weekend in camping with Sigma 60 wide open and 5N . I miss a bunch of shots due to AF hunting in low light shooting in iso 3200, the dark scenes poses hunting problems with my Sigma 60 and 5N but I know in my heart that I am blind-fully biased towards the Sigma and I will likely sell my E 50mm f/1.8 to save up for the FE 55mm f/1.8.

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    I have not prepared my Sony E 50mm f/1.8 for sale yet, it will be listed on buy&sell forum for $225.00 with box, hood + shipping.

    Cheers,
    Hin
     

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  11. Grisu_HDH

    Grisu_HDH TalkEmount Veteran

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    Dec 16, 2012
    Southern Germany
    Markus
    I did a change from the old Sigma 30mm DN to the 60mm Art lens after I bought the SEL 35mm 1.8 instead.
    I love the image quality of the Sigma.
    The Art lens looks much better in my opinion compared to my old DN version.