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Sigma 100-400mm Contemporary for E mount

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A review already? That was quick, just officially announced yesterday.

Sigma has been really aggressive lately. Still, you have a G lens and a slightly wider aperture and slightly cheaper. And both are way cheaper than the Sony 100-400. Time will tell on IQ when people start getting them in their hands.
 

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I am quite happy with the 70-350mm G lens.

When I was a Canon shooter, I used the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS ii lens and really liked its capabilities, However due to its heavy weight (57.76 oz or 1640 grams), I did not carry this lens unless I knew I would be shooting in a venue when I needed the reach - like for wildlife or airshows...

Switching to Sony, I looked at the Sony 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 GM OSS lens and "almost"pulled the trigger on it except that it was almost as heavy as the Canon (49.21 oz or 1395 Grams) and it cost an enormous $2,500...

Sigma has come out with a 100-400mm f/5-6.3 e-mount lens which only costs $949 and will be available next month. It is lighter in weight ( 40 oz or 1135 grams) than either the Canon or GM lenses of the equivalent focal range and, if true to other recent Sigma lens releases, should have excellent capabilities.

However, in the interest of a lightweight kit at a decent price, I opted to buy the APSC format Sony 70-350mm f/4.5-6.3 OSS lens which costs $898. Yes this lens is 50mm shorter on the long end than the Canon/GM/Sigma lenses but, it is 30mm wider at the short end and at 22.08 ounces or 625 grams is considerably lighter in weight than any of the other three.

The downside for some folks is that the 70-350mm G lens is for APSC format only. This doesn't bother me a bit since I shoot with both Sony full frame and crop sensor cameras AND (this is an important AND) when, I shot Canon, I always used the 100-400mm lens on my crop sensor 7D and 7D2 cameras.

Of course Sony has the excellent 200-600mm lens but, the size and weight of this monster keeps me away from it...
 

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I'm waiting to see what Tamron does on the telephoto end. I doubt they'll leave this segment all to Sigma and Sony. I'm hoping they do something different, but compelling. I have the Tamron 28-200mm 2.8-5.6 arriving tomorrow, and I'd love a telephoto zoom to pair with that lens. Also I wouldn't mind seeing some faster telephoto f/4 primes in the pipeline, but I bet they'll be expensive.

I'm still keeping my Nikon gear just because it's cheaper for me to keep a separate DSLR kit with certain telephoto lenses. Just recently Amazon was selling brand new Nikon 300mm f4 PF VR lenses for $1199 USD through their clearance website Woot. Not sure how they pulled that off selling under MSRP?
 
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Christopher Frost also did a review recently of the Sigma 100-400mm and the results at 400mm look impressive. I like listening to both his reviews and Mattias Burling, mainly based on their smooth dictation! I prefer not looking at some of these camera reviewers, unless they're an attractive female model! :roflmao:

 

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I like listening to both his reviews ... ... ... mainly based on their smooth dictation!
Californians and Brits seem to love each other's accents! Yes, I'm English :laugh1:

I know that I want a couple of zoom lenses. What is on offer at the moment has me fairly confused as to what, why and when. (Of course, I should answer why first). I'm sure the choice will only get better. Or worse... for decision making.
 

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I don't expect to see 3rd party fast supertelephoto primes - the market is too small.

I'm wondering if it's possible Tamron can pull off a fast variable 2.8-5.6 telephoto zoom lens? That would totally be different to anything out there. Tamron still has the opportunity to release these lenses in other mirrorless mounts to offset their R&D cost. Though telephoto fast primes will most likely come direct from Sony.
 

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Californians and Brits seem to love each other's accents! Yes, I'm English :laugh1:

I know that I want a couple of zoom lenses. What is on offer at the moment has me fairly confused as to what, why and when. (Of course, I should answer why first). I'm sure the choice will only get better. Or worse... for decision making.

Depends on the English accent. I worked at an English agency where everyone spoke with a cockney accent. Took me over a month to understand what everyone was saying! :D
 

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Sigma has released a firmware update for this lens. Details here:

https://www.sigmaphoto.com/article/firmware-update-100400dgdn-e-v02

But for some reason the lens has to be sent in to a Sigma-authorized repair center to get this updated firmware. And while the update is free, Sigma will not pay for the shipping. Apparently after this update gets done, users will be able to do any future firmware updates themselves. But I am more than a little peeved to have to send the lens in on my dime. I’m going to do it, because I don’t want to risk any messed up shots because I‘m too cheap. But… :cautious:
 

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JonathonF2 mentioned, "Also I wouldn't mind seeing some faster telephoto f/4 primes in the pipeline, but I bet they'll be expensive."
I would also like to see a reasonably priced and sized 300mm f/4 prime like the great Canon 300mm f/4L IS lens. The relatively small size/weight and decent price of this lens made it one of my favorite lenses. On my crop sensor Canon DSLR cameras (7D or 7D2) this lens equated to an equivalent 480mm f/4 lens and using a 1.4x TC with that combination produced an equivalent 672mm f/5.6. The 300mm f/4L IS lens combined with the 70-200mm f/4L IS on a pair of crop sensor DSLR cameras (7D and 7D2) was a great "poor man's" sports setup...
 

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I have two tele zoom lenses: Sony 70-350mm and Sony 70-200mm f/4. I was seriously considering replacing my 70-200mm f/4 with the 70-350mm because there is an overlap between these two lenses.

However, I am keeping both lenses. The 70mm of the 70-200mm on a full frame camera is considerably wider than the 70mm of the 70-350mm on a crop sensor (which is a 105mm equivalent). I have noticed that I need this extra width when I am shooting dogs - especially groups of dogs. Additionally, the constant f/4 aperture of the 70-200mm makes it (IMO) a better portrait glass... However, the relative lightweight and long focal length of the 70-350mm makes it a very nice general purpose telephoto zoom lens...
 

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After complaining in an email to Sigma customer service, they sent me a pre-paid UPS label, which I used to send the lens in for the firmware update. And today it came back with Ver. 02 installed. I took it out into the yard to see if I could detect any difference.

Nope. :rolleyes:

DSC09487.jpg
ILCE-7RM4    100-400mm F5-6.3 DG DN OS | Contemporary 020    383mm    f/6.3    1/400s    ISO 320
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ILCE-7RM4    100-400mm F5-6.3 DG DN OS | Contemporary 020    383mm    f/6.3    1/400s    ISO 1000


From now on I'll be able to update the firmware myself. Assuming I don't succumb to my growing lust for that new 150–600mm Sport lens. :laugh:
 

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Huh, I haven't noticed any problems with my Sigma 100-400.
I doubt that you will. The firmware update is to fix two problems:

Firmware Ver.02:
  • It has improved the phenomenon whereby the lens' optical stabilizer effect differs depending on the shutter type and drive mode used.
  • It has corrected the phenomenon whereby the lens firmware cannot be updated via the camera.
My only reason for sending in the lens was to make sure that I’d be able to do future updates myself.
 

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