Samsung making a comeback?

Discussion in 'Other Systems' started by NickCyprus, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. Simsy

    Simsy TalkEmount Regular

    Dec 23, 2012
    looks very retro
  2. Bimjo

    Bimjo Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Oct 28, 2011
    Washington State
    Interesting concept.
  3. freddytto

    freddytto TalkEmount All-Pro

    Dec 2, 2011
    Puebla, Mexico
    looks cool :) 
  4. addieleman

    addieleman Passionate amateur Subscribing Member

    Nov 13, 2012
    Ad Dieleman
    Good to see some action from Samsung. Let's have some real cameras next, with a viewfinder...
  5. ChangshaNotes

    ChangshaNotes Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 15, 2012
    Certainly a nice looking camera.

    Is 3D very popular now? Here in China, they sell the TVs but I don't know anyone who has one or is interested. I can be a bit out of the loop here sometimes.
  6. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther TalkEmount Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    Not so sure "comeback" is the correct word (when were they out in front?)
    Anyways, I still believe they are a sleeper - with an APS-C sensor and a good set of base lenses (to include their phenomenal 85mm ƒ1.4) they're poised - just need to move :cool: 
  7. Dioptrick

    Dioptrick TalkEmount All-Pro

    Feb 4, 2012
    New Zealand

    Totally love the look of that body... man, that would look stunning with a legacy lens! I hope Sony is paying attention!!

    In contrast, their native lens looks so out of place... reminds me of a knob from a scuba tank regulator :( 
  8. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin TalkEmount Regular

    Sep 26, 2012
    Brisbane, Australia
    Despite a few oddities like huge raw files and resultant write times, the previous NX200 model has really quite impressed me. I found one second-hand late last year for only $300 including the wonderful little 30/2 pancake lens, and then a 20/2.8 pancake for another $100. The build quality and materials (except for the cheapo battery door) is excellent, the buttons and dials have a wonderful high quality feel to them, and the OLED screen, graphics and menus are up there with the best that I have encountered. The 20MP sensor is not a low light specialist but it gives a similarly natural looking raw output that I liked so much about my old Canon 50D.

    If I wanted to expand much further into the system I think that it would be with the larger NX20 body, but the NX200 + the two pancakes are plenty for me at the moment. It's definitely a system that I am keeping my eye on, but it just seems so mysterious!

    EDIT: OMG! I just saw that the NX300 has a higher resolution 3.3" tilting touchscreen. Bliss!
  9. Poki

    Poki TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Aug 30, 2011
    At least it's the first good step to make 3D photography and cinematography available for the consumer. Oh, and it got the best screen of all CSCs. But other than that ... can't really understand why this camera stands out from the crowd. Personally, I like the design of the NEX-7 much better than this one.
  10. NickCyprus

    NickCyprus Super Moderator

    Oct 11, 2012
    Is the Samsung NX system Sony's Nex main competitor ???

    The NX300 is expected to hit the market on March 2013.
    Looks like there will be tough competition this year
    Sony better "wake up" ...I wonder what they have under their sleeves for 2013...
  11. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther TalkEmount Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    In the upcoming years, Fuji & Samsung could surprise a few folks....:) 
  12. teefin1

    teefin1 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Sep 7, 2012
    I think it looks like a NEX crossed with a fuji! The thung with Samsung is, it should be Sony's main competitor given sensor size, but AF struggled (more I think) low light performance wasn't great and IQ not as good. Add that to huge file sizes and slow write speed and it's not so much a sleeper as a floater ;) 
  13. ChangshaNotes

    ChangshaNotes Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 15, 2012
    The more the merrier. Let's hope they push each other. The winner will be the consumers with better tech, design and price competition.
  14. NickCyprus

    NickCyprus Super Moderator

    Oct 11, 2012
    I have to say that after reading the review as linked by RT_Panther here: First Impressions: Samsung NX300 and 45mm f1.8 3D I am mightly impressed with the NX300!!!

    Looks like it doesn't miss much from Sony's top of the range Nex-7 (minus the EVF which is the only thing that bothers me with the NX300) offcourse until the new Nex comes out :D 

    20,3MP sensor (vs 24mp), hybrid AF with contrast and phase detection (vs Contrast) with Samsung claiming that should be the best in the world, 9fps continuous shooting vs 10fps, larger 3,3'' (and probably better?) titl and touch screen, 25600ISO (vs 16200), WiFi, mode dial, lots of controls you can choose, focus peaking (which doesn't say how it performs), 1/6000s shutter speed, more (and better according to some reviews I've read) lenses, lighter body (looks smaller too ?), and only $750 (vs $1100) !!!

    Nice retro design but the Nex-7 looks better IMHO regarding ergonomics (ie. better grip)

    Review also says that you get the camera together with LR4 which sounds awesome!!!
  15. RalllyFan

    RalllyFan TalkEmount Regular

    Dec 2, 2012
    Well put. 3D is still a little bit of a gimmick in my book, but I love the retro design. I do like Samsung products as my cell phone, 2 TV's, bluray and laptop are all Samsung. All perform admirably.

    I think Samsung and Sony share the same battle being they're both electronic giants trying to compete with the very well established photography giants of Nikon, Canon, Olympus...etc. I know my own views were jaded at first, I refused to think a Sony camera would be good enough despite what I read, and it took the blowout clearance pricing on the 5N to make me try it and change my mind.
  16. applemint

    applemint TalkEmount Veteran

    Sep 20, 2012
    The next Canon mirrorless camera is rumoured to be a Nex 6/7 competitor (built in evf, more controls) but they need to improve their AF (apparently it's worse than Nex) and the EOS M was a let down in many ways so who knows if they will get it right at the second attempt or not?

    That said, I would say micro four thirds is the main competitor despite the smaller sensor - the newer 16mp m43 sensors are a big improvement on the previous 12mp sensors, especially in terms of high iso performance. Still not as good as the APS-C sensors in the Nex cameras, but m43 does offer much faster AF and a much better selection of native lenses, so that may sway some people who are trying to decide between Nex and m43.
  17. NickCyprus

    NickCyprus Super Moderator

    Oct 11, 2012
    I think I read somewhere that Canon and Nikon aren't that interested in investing in the mirrorless type cameras/system and will probably continue to focus in the DSLR market...

    Funnily enough, I've been having a long conversation the last 2 days with a friend of mine that wants to upgrade from P&S and I was trying to convince him to opt for APS-C mirrorless than m4/3...

    Anyway, I feel like for one wanting to buy a mirrorless camera today, the decision is pretty hard to make with all those (good) options now (and soon) available.
    Lets see what Sony plans for 2013...(I'm having my fingers crossed that Sony will come out with something exceptional to continue to lead the mirrorless market)
  18. Luckypenguin

    Luckypenguin TalkEmount Regular

    Sep 26, 2012
    Brisbane, Australia
    I like the fact that there is another camera manufacturer and specifically another sensor manufacturer providing an alternative. Sony has been brilliant at pushing the extremes of sensor design in terms of measurables like dynamic range and high ISO noise, but that doesn't imply that their sensors will produce the more pleasing image in all circumstances. The 20MP Samsungs have a unique flavour of their own which I immediately connected with on my NX200.
  19. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther TalkEmount Veteran

    Aug 9, 2011
    Why not Fuji? It's the same sensor size too....
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