Photobucket just blew up billions of photos online.

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by fractal, Jul 1, 2017.

  1. fractal

    fractal TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    Southeastern PA
    Chris
    anyone here use Photobucket?

    Looks like they decided you have to pay $399/year to post your photos in forums.

    My smugmug account, which is superior to photobucket starts at $5.99/month.

    I really feel bad for those that have photos posted in various thread/trip reports and sites over the years. For the photobucket users out there - how much notice were you given of this change?

    Photobucket Just Broke Billions of Photos Across the Web
     
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  2. roundball

    roundball TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Oct 8, 2013
    USA
    I switched to Flickr 2-3 years ago after Photobucket had a huge system problem that lost 3/4 of my photos...broke all their links, etc.

    I purged the rest of my photos but left my account active as an emergency fall back...received no notification whatsoever of this big change.

    It truly is a disgusting way for a business to implement such a change without warning...and I hope they pay the price of going completely out of business.
     
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  3. sesser

    sesser TalkEmount Veteran Subscribing Member

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    randy
    The implementation was a BS move but I kind of have a hard time feeling sorry for those that expected to get storage AND bandwidth for free. Sure, I'd be pretty pissed at the situation, but beggars can't be choosers. ;)
     
  4. roundball

    roundball TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Oct 8, 2013
    USA
    Let me explain:
    The site was free for users, paid for by Advertisements.
    Or users could pay a fee to eliminate Advertisements which I did;
    And users could pay a fee for additional storage, which I did;

    Yet, in spite of that, this company jerked the rug out from under EVERYBODY...with ZERO WARNING...breaking everyone's links to various sites all over the Internet...AND then demanded a gargantuan fee of $400 to use Photobucket in the future ???????

    No, I'm sorry, nothing about what Photobucket did is justified or acceptable...I hope it ruins them and they go completely out of business.
     
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  5. Tipton

    Tipton TalkEmount Veteran

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    Jan 30, 2016
    Rae Leggett
    Well, they've just gained internet notoriety, and not the good kind!
     
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  6. newst

    newst TalkEmount Regular

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    Aug 20, 2014
    Troy, MI
    Steve New
    Funny, but I still haven't received any notification from Photobucket.
    It's not a big thing for me. I still can access the images that I uploaded to the site. My major link usage was to a social site that I dropped out of many years ago and a modeling website that the owner pulled the plug on a couple months back. My only recent use of Photobucket was to have a couple of my images reproduced on canvas, but there is a lot of competition in that arena so I don't have to deal with Photobucket in the future, and don't expect that I will.
     
  7. WNG

    WNG TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Aug 12, 2014
    Arrid Zone-A, USA
    Will
    I haven't used Photobucket since they changed to a bizarre interface that resembles the layout of a sleazy Las Vegas casino, can't find your way out of it!
    Just logged back in...so now you only get a mere 2GB of free storage. Additional 8GB if you allow them to use your personal data off your cell phone.
    The rest be charged a monthly fee for more storage. And a fee on top of that to link my images to a website? LOL!
    Are they kidding?
    OK, so let's try an experiment...here's a real old photo I used to hot link, and it seems to still hot link here. So, what going on then?

    0b445b2c.
     
  8. newst

    newst TalkEmount Regular

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    Steve New
    Careful, they may start sending you monthly bills for that image.
     
  9. WNG

    WNG TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Aug 12, 2014
    Arrid Zone-A, USA
    Will
    And I'll tell them where they can put them! :D
     
  10. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Aug 6, 2011
    That's one of the reasons we implemented automatic attachments of hotlinked images here. If Flickr were to do this, the impact would be much greater. Not hard to imagine that happening under Verizon ownership!
     
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  11. roundball

    roundball TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Oct 8, 2013
    USA
    Yes, your site configuration is a good model for others to follow Amin.
    And I can't imagine why Verizon would want to bother with something like Flickr...time will tell.

    It seems that Forum software advances / upgrades are becoming more the trend that allow direct uploads from a PC...I only have one Forum left I occasionally frequent for which I need to use a hosting site like Flickr...but once that last forum upgrades to direct uploads, I'll no longer have any dependency on 3rd party online sites.
    :)
     
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  12. sesser

    sesser TalkEmount Veteran Subscribing Member

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    May 21, 2016
    randy
    I never said it was acceptable. They could have explained the reasoning and given fair warning upfront. They chose not to and now there's all this hoopla about it. My point was, bandwidth costs $$. On AWS, you pay $0.09/GB up to 10TB of data transferred out to the interwebs. So 1TB = $90. How many TB do you suppose photobucket, an image hosting site, uses each month? Their estimated page views/mo is over a million and I doubt that covers direct links to images hosted on their servers.

    Don't get me wrong; I'm not condoning what they did. Not even close. The pricing is unfair for users that don't use a lot of bandwidth and they're essentially demanding a ransom after the fact. That is not a good way run a business (just ask Martin Shkreli) or gain customers. Heck, for $11/mo you can get a Dreamhost account and have unlimited bandwidth and storage but, you have to manage things yourself and for the non-technical, that is a real showstopper. But even Dreamhost has limitations on their "unlimited" plans so that they can maintain a certain level of performance for everyone paying for their shared services.
     
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  13. bdbits

    bdbits TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Sep 10, 2015
    Bob
    I get what you said, sesser, and in part concur that service providers have to make money, too. People expect too much for free these days.

    But they made the dumbest move possible - go from an essentially free model in place for a lot of years to $399/month with no advance notice. Really? In what world does that result in customer retention? I fully believe they are going to find out the consequences. I suspect they will no longer have a bandwidth problem, if that was the driver, or too many users - not sure they wanted that.
     
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  14. sesser

    sesser TalkEmount Veteran Subscribing Member

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    May 21, 2016
    randy
    I think you mean $399/year.
     
  15. bdbits

    bdbits TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Bob
    :blush: Um, sorry, yes per year - $399/month would be truly insane! I should not post late in the evening. :redface::redface::redface:
     
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  16. johnson4096

    johnson4096 TalkEmount Regular

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    Dec 23, 2016
    Dan Johnson
    I've heard nothing from them. What with this and their recent interface changes, they are another formerly good website that's gone down the tubes because of greed.

    I was a paid up so-called "lifetime member" of a former music website that was purchased and shut down by a bigger competitor which promptly cancelled my service but graciously offered to restore it if I paid up again. I told them to go pound sand. Their resultant website is a mere shadow of the greatness the original possessed. It sets new standards for user unfriendliness. Kinda like photobucket is today.
     
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  17. WNG

    WNG TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Aug 12, 2014
    Arrid Zone-A, USA
    Will
    People must also keep in mind, that in the USA, the number of internet service providers are shrinking to monopolistic players. There is also a lot of dirty lobbying practices in DC to cap bandwidth in order to hike rates and profits for the remaining providers.

    The amount of bandwidth consumed by the average person is negligible compared to the rate charged per month. And the load of shuffling still images is barely more than voice over IP, so any claims of being burdened by the cost of bandwidth by Photobucket is nonsense.
    If a company can't be profitable with their business plan concerning storage services, then it's time to fold.

    Nothing is really free. Like in the past, marketing and advertising dollars are their revenue. And now, collecting and selling our personal information is part of that revenue.
    Note: Nearly all free photo hosting sites require you to agree to an unlimited lifetime license, if not outright co-ownership (Google) of your data and images. The less notorious sites at least allows you to reserve sole ownership and relinquish licensing the moment you delete an image.
     
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  18. sliver-surfer

    sliver-surfer TalkEmount Regular

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    Nov 29, 2013
    Wow only took me 15mins to download 400 images(my Bucket) from photobucket and upload them to Flickr. It will take a bit more time to fix relevant links. I am going to keep my photobucket account a week or two and see if they don't have a change of heart.
     
  19. roundball

    roundball TalkEmount Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Oct 8, 2013
    USA
    Yeah, it been as bad as mis-management gets...can't believe its going to last.

    But the bad news is...unless they simply / temporarily blocked the link assigments from executing...as opposed to ending / breaking their associations to specific photos...the damage has been done and my guess is irreversible.

    Either way, I suspect some PB heads are going to roll after the dust settles.

    NOTE: you probably don't need it, but FYI, Flickr has been without any editor for a few months now and no idea if / when they will have another one in place / operational.
     
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  20. bdbits

    bdbits TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Sep 10, 2015
    Bob
    Verizon now owns Flickr. Not sure what they will do with it, but I think it still has a pretty big user base. Thus, I think it will be safe to store photos there for some time to come, but you never know.