Panoramic problems w/ a6000

Discussion in 'Sony Alpha E-Mount Cameras' started by nighttrain, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. nighttrain

    nighttrain TalkEmount Regular

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    I've been having trouble shooting panoramics on my a6000. I typically end up trying the shot 5-10 times before I actually get one. The standard warning pops up saying it couldn't complete the photo. I've tried panning more slowly, more quickly, not breathing, etc. I've used the two kit lenses (16-50, 55-210) and a Sigma 30mm. When I had an a5000, maybe one out of every 5 or 6 panoramics I attempted would fail. I'm shooting hand-held. Any suggestions? Thanks!
     
  2. dbmiller

    dbmiller TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    How are you planning the camera? Is the held tight to your body and you are rotating you hips? Or is the camera more out at arms length?

    The former is better. Even better would be to rest the camera lens on your thumb and use that like a tripod head.

    Note that even on a tripod, the rotation point still isn't right. A model slide would help get the camera back a little further, which is why using your thumb under the lens is better.

    I saw a video somewhere that showed how various techniques were better or worse. I'll see if I can find it.

     
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  3. WNG

    WNG TalkEmount Hall of Famer

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    Will
    What focal length (besides the Sigma 30mm) are you panning at?
    The wider the FL, the faster rate of pan is possible. The zoom lens isn't particularly fast, so bright daylight is a must and panning must be notably slower.
    I've successfully made panos even with manual focus lenses of 24-50mm in bright sunlight.
    Bear in mind, if you're shooting in twilight, the shutter will be slowed and panning must also be slower to be successful.
    My highest rate of success has been pivoting with the use of the EVF, not screen. Less parallax errors.
     
  4. bdbits

    bdbits TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Bob
    I sometimes have problems like that, too. It can be frustrating.

    I find it more difficult but not impossible to do panoramics with longer focal lengths. I would avoid the 55-210 until you get the hang of it.

    I find it useful to think about how the camera has to stitch this together and try to make that easy.
    Steady and not too fast with an even sweep across the scene.
    Rotation is important - try to be a human tripod. :)
    It also seems to depend a lot on how much light you have, and sometimes I have to go surprisingly slow (like at twilight as noted).
     
  5. nighttrain

    nighttrain TalkEmount Regular

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    Thanks for the tips. dbmiller, I'll try the thumb technique. Couldn't get your link to work. I am keeping the camera close and trying to move from the hips. Shooting well before dusk. On the 16-50 I usually set it between 20-24mm. With the 55-210 it's below 60mm.

    Some people are reporting better performance with a faster SD card. I've been using a 40MB/s card. Will switch to an 80 and see if that makes a difference.
     
  6. dbmiller

    dbmiller TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Damn it - Fixed.

    While the video does manual stitching, the key take away is making it easier for the camera to do the stitching.
     
  7. bdbits

    bdbits TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Bob
    I'm not sure the SD card will matter. I am pretty sure the pano capture and stitching is all done in memory, and the result written after it is done.
     
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  8. Nexnut

    Nexnut TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Same with the NEX-7 or the older NEXes (5, 5n, 6) - no probs, worked (almost) every time, no matter what lens or SD card I've used as long as there's enough light.
     
  9. nighttrain

    nighttrain TalkEmount Regular

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    Thanks for the recent comments. dbmiller, the video was very instructive. Will try out the thumb technique next time I'm out shooting.
     
  10. chriscottafish

    chriscottafish New to TalkEmount

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    I have terrible luck with the panorama feature. I found this forum when I googled the issue. I'm happy to find others have the same problem, but not so much that there's no software fix. My a6000 will give me every error no matter how steady or constant I am. It sometimes expects me to change up my speed depending on the change of scene. I've had to start slowly then speed up as the mountains disappear, as the beginning will say I need to love more slowly. Once I get past the beginning portion I need to "move more quickly." I got ONE successfully panorama of the salt flats in Utah, the last 15% is gray, and the stitching of the successful part is terrible. I stood out there for 10-15 minutes repeatedly trying to get a panorama. I'm told to move in the direction of the arrow (when I AM). I was even instructed to move more slowly when any slower would be not moving. I have maybe a 10% success rate with huge, wide-open landscapes, and that's no guarantee the stitching isn't jagged. I feel your pain. It's gotta be a bug.