Learning the a6000

Discussion in 'Sony Alpha E-Mount Cameras' started by OldNoob, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. OldNoob

    OldNoob TalkEmount Veteran

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    Ok so today ive been trying to learn the various functions and image quality settings with this camera. thought i would make a little log.

    First off thought i would compare the in camera JPEG compression to the ARW
    ISO 100, 16-50mm kit lens at 39mm f/6.3
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    here is the 100% crop comparing the in camera JPEG compression to a direct conversion from ARW to JPEG in Rawtherapee
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    I cant tell if the Rawtherapee conversion has more detail or information than the in camera conversion,, or that it's just simply lighter.
    Notice the pixel count difference.:confused:
    The in camera JPEG compression is handled VERY proficiently by the a6000


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  2. OldNoob

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  5. Bimjo

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    Oct 28, 2011
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    Jim
    I believe you'd need to convert the RAW-to-jpg file to 8 bits to make a more valid file size comparison. ;) Always tough to do an in-camera vs. RAW conversion comparison unless you can accurately replicate what the camera processing does to the file. Just converting from RAW to jpg without applying brightness/saturation/sharpening etc. doesn't show the true differences IMO. :)
     
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  6. davect01

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    Dave
    Glad you are having fun learning your 6000
     
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  7. OldNoob

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    Today. ive been testing the oss or what we used to call Super steady shot.
    When i used my a100 the steady shot was located within the camera and was turned on or off by moving a small slider switch on the back of the camera.
    This was nice because not mater what lens i used the option was always there and it worked relatively well when on the move.
    However when mounted on a tripod SSS would actually decrease IQ of the shot. turning it off was always the thing to do when on a tripod.
    So thought i would test this, now lens, feature on the a6000
    The camera is mounded to a fixed base. The Iso is 100, the shutter speed 1/60.
    <del>From my test at this speed and looking at the 100% crops there seemed to be no visible advantage to turning off the steady shot. Even at 200% there was no discernible image quality difference.</del>
    <del>However, as always, different situations may yield different results.</del>
    Ok disregard this whole test!! aparently oss can not be turned off on this 16-50mm lens. Apparently what i was actually turning off in the menu was "Active Steady Shot" which is only used in video mode.:rolleyes:
    So of course there is no decernable difference in the sample picture. LOL :D
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  8. OldNoob

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    So.... the bride ( my niece) says she wants to do the wedding gown pictures TOMARROW. so im panicking,, i really need a fast prime with a shallow DOF. So i drive half an hour to the only place open that has E-mount lenses, Best Buy. I get there and i have two choices a 55mm <del> f1.4</del> f1.8 and a 50mm f1.8 Oh that 55mm seems very enticing so i check the price................
    $999.99 dollars
    Yeah that's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
    Guess which one i got? Thats right the 50mm
    even so the process of putting it on my BB credit card was painful and dreaded.

    will post pics later if they are any good.
     
  9. WestOkid

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    Jan 25, 2014
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    Gary
    Not sure if BB had a misprint or you did, but there is no F/1.4 e-mount. I believe the Lens must have been the 55mm F/1.8 Zeiss. So if what enticed you was the idea of F/1.4, that was not the case. The fact is that on an APS-C camera, the 50 1.8 with OSS will be more flexible and better in low-light.
    Good luck with the wedding.
     
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  10. alaios

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    Alex
    why one has to do so many comparisons to learn his camera? What is the main purpose of this test?
     
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  11. OldNoob

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    A little well not truly disappointed but surprised with the SEL-50F18. It obviously excels over the kit lens in speed and DOF creativity. And the colors are warmer than the kit lens , and the contrast of the 50mm f1.8 is also better than the 16-50mm kit lens at 50mm. But i was surprised to discover that at f5.6 the kit zoom was actually just as sharp in the center AND sharper in the edges than the SEL50F18 at f5.6. Below is a 100% center crop of the SEL1650 @ 50mm next to the SEL50F18
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  12. OldNoob

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    Thank You for the well wishes West! :) Glad you caught that. yes it was the 55mm f1.8 my mistake
     
  13. OldNoob

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    Setting -> "Intelligent Auto" yep i am convinced that it is smarter than me, though thats not saying much. ;) Seriously I was surprised! It did what i wanted it to to do. the exposure compensation and white balance are very pleasing.
     
  14. OldNoob

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    The EVF.( or DVF) I used to despise Electronic viewfinders,, in fact while looking through a3000 i found it literally nauseating. HOWEVER,, the a6000 actually works!! ther is a very nice field of view, and there is enough detail for me to actually compose and review the shot. Lag is minimal, exposure information is adequate and readable. I was surprised that i actually can use without becoming disgruntled. EVF was one thing in the past that was making me consider Pentax and Nikon over Sony
    The Cellphone capture doesn't give the resolution needed to properly describe the the quality of the EVF.
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  15. OldNoob

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    To learn the capabilities as well as limitations of the camera and attached lenses.:)
     
  16. OldNoob

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    Ive got say, the image processing software in the a6000 is amazing. let me explain.
    Look at this plain-jane photo of a Pen Oak branch on a overcast wet day. DRO is set to 3
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    Now lets look a little closer.
    The 100% crop on the left is a in camera JPEG image. The crop on the right is from a converted RAW file with no editing.
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    Whats so special? Well the In camera software has actually taken the information from the lens as to what was in focus and sharpened it while taking that which was designated out of focus, the background, and applied noise reduction.
    This is something that i used spend a great deal of time on doing by hand in photoshop before printing!:tup:
     
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  17. OldNoob

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    Welp,, a bit of a down side discovered today. There is no way to enter Artist name or Copyright information to the Exif data from within the camera settings. Exif artist data and copyright information will have to be added later.
     
  18. GateCityRadio

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    Kev
    Yeah, I was kind of disappointed to find my A7 didn't have that feature either (unless it is there and I haven't found it in the menu yet)...its one of the many features I like in my pentax dslrs.
     
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