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I want a portrait lens

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by Red Bull 2013, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. Red Bull 2013

    Red Bull 2013 TalkEmount Regular

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    Mar 21, 2013
    Best regards. as I said in the title, I want a portrait lens. Good, cheap and easy if you can.
    Honestly I've stopped at Jupiter 9 (85/2) and Carl Zeiss Biometar 80 / 2.8.
    http://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j...=yYZ-FrL5La_ML5FWgxI4DQ&bvm=bv.53077864,d.bGE
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    Weight: Jupiter 9 is 380 gr, 250 gr Biometar
    I think it is better bokeh / stressed to Jupiter.
    Waiting for an idea from you possibly ideas for other objectives.

    I wish you a good day . :th_salute:
     
  2. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    I got Contax Zeiss Sonnar 85mm/2.8 few months ago. Somewhat more expensive but I like it very much. Biometar is some kind of Planar so I expect it to be softer wide open and best at 5.6-11. Jupiter 9 is a Sonnar and quite good (but soft at 2.0).

    Other possibilities are Samyang 85mm/1.4, Canon or Nikon 85 mm, many 50mm legacy lenses and legacy 100mm lenses.
     
  3. serhan

    serhan TalkEmount All-Pro

    Aug 27, 2011
    NYC
    Jupiter 9 bokeh is nice and soft wide open, good for portraits. Other small lenses are Olympus 85mm f/2 and Contax g 90mm f/2.8. I think both are Sonnar also. Contax g 90mm is same design as Contax Zeiss 85mm 2.8, both are sharp wide open. Sony 85mm 2.8 might be based on these. Shorter range Sigma 60mm 2.8 is one of the sharpest lenses also.
     
  4. Red Bull 2013

    Red Bull 2013 TalkEmount Regular

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    Mar 21, 2013
    I have a Minolta Rokkor 55 / 1.7, are satisfied with it, but sometimes it's too short. I have a 135 / 2.8 Panagia, it seems too long. I want something in the middle, but good / cheap / easy. Is it me or Carl Zeiss is pretty sharp even though it's open for all?I want a bright, Jupiter 9 is ok for the price ... but I also like Biometar 80/2.8, it's just the mount Pentacon 6. and do not think I would find Nex adapter.
     
  5. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    I would avoid medium format lenses.

    Jupiter 9 is ok lens but sample variation is huge. I think that it is overpriced if it is over 150 USD and I would like see it too before buying. I have Tamron 100mm/2.5 that is quite good too but rare.
     
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  6. Bugleone

    Bugleone TalkEmount Veteran

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    Aug 21, 2011
    Pentacon 6 lenses could be used on pentax thread (M42) 35mm cameras by means of the semi-auto adaptor made by East German Zeiss (pentacon) and sold with some of the pentacon lenses such as the 180mm & 300mm Sonnars. If you can aquire one of those then a normal M42 to NEX adaptor will join that, plus Biometar.

    .......NOTE: Biometar was made in at least three different versions.....the older uncoated & semi-coated examples (sometimes called 'zebra' type) perform poorly in my view. Conversely the later fully coated version is quite a good lens as I recall........it neeeds to be all black with 'diamond' chequering on the focussing ring and perferably the letters 'MC' in red on the front of the lens barrel to denote multi-coating.
     
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  7. Bill

    Bill TalkEmount Veteran

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    Oct 22, 2012
    Brisbane, Australia
    Bill
    It's a little shorter than the lenses you've been looking at, but I suggest the Sigma 60mm. Equals 90mm in full-frame terms, auto-focus, very sharp and well priced.
     
  8. Red Bull 2013

    Red Bull 2013 TalkEmount Regular

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    Mar 21, 2013
    Bill, I have to take into account, thanks.
    Possibly if you have more ideas ...
     
  9. Poki

    Poki TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Aug 30, 2011
    Austria
    Possibly not in the price range you're looking at, but some of the best portraits I saw were shot with a Zeiss Makro-Planar 50mm f/2 on APS-C bodies - the incredibly well corrected optics with it's flat field reproduction fits portraits very well. Alternatively, of course, the Sony 50 1.8, the Sigma 60 2.8 or the Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 (A-Mount).
     
  10. Amamba

    Amamba TalkEmount All-Pro

    Apr 13, 2013
    SE MI
    Sony 50/1.8 is an excellent portrait lens on Nex, or any of the legacy 50mm should work fine - the Minolta MD 50/1.7 produces nice bokeh up to 2.8 and is sharp with nice color rendering, and cheap.

    At 85 mm a lot of the legacy glass gets rather overpriced, imho.
     
  11. Bimjo

    Bimjo Super Moderator

    Oct 28, 2011
    Washington State
    Jim
    Depending on how long you want to get, the Olympus OM 100/2.8 can be had reasonably inexpensively and is a fairly small lens, even with the adapter.
     
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  12. Mellow

    Mellow TalkEmount Regular

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    Aug 18, 2013
    Florida or Wyoming
    Tom
    Classic portrait lens was 85mm on FF, and this corresponds to a little longer than 50mm on a NEX. This means there are a zillion 'normal' lenses that can be adapted to good effect. Some of the ones I've have or tried are:

    Jupiter-3, 50mm f/1.5: silky bokeh, acceptably sharp in the center wide open; makes a nice portrait lens;
    Summitar 50mm f/2: higher contrast than the Jupiter and slightly harsher bokeh, but still very nice;
    Canon FL 55mm f/1.2: quite a "glow" wide open which often works for portraits;
    Yashica ML 50mm f/2: Yashica MLs are very underrated, based on Zeiss design; this one is small with an interesting, sometimes swirly bokeh. One of my favorite lenses and the cheapest of the bunch;
    Yashica ML 50mm f/1.4: Faster than the f/2 but significantly softer wide-open with that glow again; I only use it for portraits and shallow DOF shots.
     
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  13. Red Bull 2013

    Red Bull 2013 TalkEmount Regular

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    Mar 21, 2013
    Poki , Amamba , Mellow , thank you for the answers but I said I Minolta 55 / 1.7 and it's great (I'm pleased with him). But I want a longer lens, something between 55 and 135 (I have a 135 / 2.8've said).
    Therefore I looked at Jupiter, maybe someone here has it or any alternative objective and can tell me what.
    I like the Sigma 60 / 2.8, 55/1.7 but once I do not know if it's worth buying it, I think it's too little difference.A 80, 85, 90 would be ideal for me.And as I said, cheap and good.:laugh1:
    It's a shame that Sony does not think to that. Olympus has 12, 45, 75 / a perfect trio.
    Bimjo, thanks, is to consider your idea.
    These were made ​​with 55 / 1.7, but if I'd wanted a nice bokeh and I pose the greater the distance already was not. So I want something longer. The 135 is soft to 2.8. DSC03411 (2). DSC02475. DSC03190-2.
     
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  14. Mattithjah

    Mattithjah TalkEmount Veteran

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    Jan 17, 2013
    Czech Republic
    Matěj
    I have JUPI-9 85/2, but I don´t use it so much yet, so I can´t post some pics... It is very well made, with nice rounded aperture blades (unfortunatelly oiled on my piece). But it is also big and heavy lens compared with JUPI-8 or JUPI-3. It is as big and heavy as my Canon FL 58/1,2 despite it has small L39 adapter.
     
  15. serhan

    serhan TalkEmount All-Pro

    Aug 27, 2011
    NYC
    There are not many cheap 85mm's, not like 50mm. Voigtlander 75mm 2.5 is a good choice for a small lens, not cheap. Pentax 85mm m42 are usually well sought, but expensive. So maybe try a Jupiter 9 and you can always sell it without much loss.
     
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  16. Amamba

    Amamba TalkEmount All-Pro

    Apr 13, 2013
    SE MI
    What about Rokinon 85/1.4 ? In Sony mount it's $250 on Amazon, which is only about $50 more than Jupiter. And it's a modern fast lens, with warranty, and honestly while Russian lenses may be very good, the QC tends to be very iffy.
     
  17. Poki

    Poki TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Aug 30, 2011
    Austria
    So you say the quality control at Rokinon is any better? I don't know about the russian lenses, but Rokinon isn't any good either when it comes to QC.

    As for the Rokinon 85 1.4 - a great lens for video, but unfortunately not very sharp when using for photos.
     
  18. Red Bull 2013

    Red Bull 2013 TalkEmount Regular

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    Mar 21, 2013
    What about Rokinon 85/1.4 ? In Sony mount it's $250 on Amazon, which is only about $50 more than Jupiter. And it's a modern fast lens, with warranty, and honestly while Russian lenses may be very good, the QC tends to be very iffy.
    Amamba , I see that you own a Minolta 70-210 / 4, as portraits go with it, like the bokeh?

    If anyone has other suggestions, I expect :groups_cuddle:
     
  19. Amamba

    Amamba TalkEmount All-Pro

    Apr 13, 2013
    SE MI
    Both the Minolta and Kiron Tele zooms that I have produce really nice bokeh, however I was under impression you wanted a faster lens ? F4 may be a bit limiting on the inside.


    This is Minolta, wide open or very close to wide open

    9087640013_5fe6508ed9_k. DSC05004 by BugsDaddy, on Flickr
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  20. nianys

    nianys TalkEmount All-Pro

    Aug 23, 2012
    France
    I have one... But it's hard to find ;) Navitron 75 1.3

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