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Honestly....One of those days

teefin1

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Is there ever a time where you feel like jacking in the NEX with the crappy AF and mostly manual system? and getting a 'normal' camera? Yesterday was one of those days!

Went off to playgroup again to take some more pictures, and after 100 shots, came home and loaded them up. Honestly, if there was ONE picture that was correctly focused, exposed etc i would be suprised. I was using the Helios 58/2, had it accidentally set to High Contrast, which i always find difficult, and some of the parents made me feel I was being intrusive.

THis kind of situation reminds of what I really dont know about photography, and how the NEX offers a steep learnng curve to the beginner. Consider the prideful grin removed.

I include some of the more bearable pics (out of 95!!), but there is something wrong with each:

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Both of these are misfocused, but would have been my favourites otherwise

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This was really over exposed, I've actually made her look almost grey in trying to correct it


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Ok, this is Kira,I take pics of her all the time

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Again, Alice is so fair haired almost all the pics of her are blinding (not in a good way)
 

nianys

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Hey Teefin, hang in there.
I know EXACTLY what you mean. My GX-1 was a sexy, curvy, smart, FAST and versatile camera that seemed to tackle anything I'd throw at it. Next thing I know I have a NEX 5N sized like a pack of cigarette and feeling like it could break in two anytime, with a big sticking 18-55 on it that achieves focus long after my subjects have gotten out of the frame...
I can't tell you how frustrated I've gotten at times, thinking of the deadly accurate and fast AF of the GX-1, it's great touchscreen, genius autofocus, and just perfect feel in hand.
BUT, and that's the catch, when I compare the resulting pictures side by side, even with the fantastic and fast PanaLeica mounted, the NEX pictures are just way better than the Panny's. Period.
I remember fitting my cheapo Canon FD 1.8 nifty on the 5N, achieving focus smoothly and precisely with nearly no effort thanks to the Peaking magic, and being just AWED and the regained DOF control over m4/3, and how beautiful and smooth and detailed and clear the pictures were.
The more I shot manual lenses, the more I knew there was no possible way back to the size crippled sensor and maddening increased DOF of the Panny (which was heartbreaking, I had truly bonded with that camera, and have yet to be in love with my Nex's).
Like you, I shoot kids (mostly mine, but will try to capture any child that crosses my path), pets, or even adult targets (colleagues, friends, spouse if he's tied up and can't strike back... just kidding). Magnification is out of the question, so we're stuck with peaking, which, as genius as it is, has its quirks, flaws, and unaccuracies.
Some shooting sessions will go soour and you won't get anything right. Really, sh&*t happens, we all go thru that.
You can put that satisfied grin back on your face right now, because even though you're going thru that learning curve, you're THERE, doing the homework, not blaming the equipment, learning, trying, experimenting, going to the playground with a MF camera for God's sake ! How frigging brave is that !?
One of the reason photo boards at DPReview are so maddening is for the vast majority of users bitching about gear when they're obviously totally clueless and absolutely reluctant to make the slightest effort.
This site is great because it gathers people who don't worship the gear, don't blame it either, just work with it and get out of their ways to get better.

You are showing a pretty incredibly keen eye and natural talent for this thing, just keep at it and accept that some sessions are, not lost, far from it, but without actual pictures to show for.
 

NickCyprus

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No.2 and the shot of Kira are my favourites too :thumbup:

Claire's words are so inspiring btw - they make me even more "anxious" now to try some shots with my first manual lens (MD 50 1.7) :D
 

applemint

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One of the reason photo boards at DPReview are so maddening is for the vast majority of users bitching about gear when they're obviously totally clueless and absolutely reluctant to make the slightest effort.
This site is great because it gathers people who don't worship the gear, don't blame it either, just work with it and get out of their ways to get better.

+1 So true. :D
 

freddytto

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the 3 and 4, are very nice, my wife have fascinated these babies and now want to order from the stork, ;), sometimes grabe my cameras and likes to use the nex7 and the VF and is learning to use MF.
 

Dioptrick

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Hang in there teefin! We all have our off days... it's part of the learning curve and part of the journey of growing (which never stops btw). So try not to be too hard on yourself... allow yourself to make mistakes and use days such as this as stepping-stones.

I must say, that children's portraits is not the easiest of photographic endeavours, and many would consider this to be a very specialized field (even with AF). Eventually you will develop your own tricks and techniques and also an intuition that comes from being familiar with the way your subjects move and behave, but mastery takes time and practice.

During my early days in graphic design and publishing, I noticed something peculiar about professional photographers. When we would give them a brief to take a photo of something, they would always come back with dozens of shots of the same thing. It was my job to pick the best one and biff the rest. It was not uncommon for me to go through several rolls of film only to pick 2 or 3 shots.

Eventually I ended up shooting our own commercial images, and I have picked-up this habit in my own photography. I would allow myself to take as many shots as I wish - bearing in mind that I would only pick a few and biff the rest. There's no sense of loss for me in doing that. Sometimes I would biff all of them and go back for a re-shoot, but I'll be armed with the knowledge of what went wrong the first time, and would bring with me a fresh new approach. Part of honing the skill is having had the experience of making every mistake imaginable in order to have the knowhow of avoiding it.

Figure out what you think went wrong... then try again. :)
 

teefin1

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Thanks so much everybody for all the feedback, advice and kind words. I wouldn't change from NEX, it offers so much that I couldn't give up, and that currently, no other system offers in the same way; not Canon M, not Fuji xe1 or m43 (for me). This particular experience has made me see that I have to offer more to get the most from it, and that will take some learning. Today's lesson: high contrast and fast apertures equal lower peaking and invariably, difficulty achieving critical focus. The gear deserves better from me; I intend to rise to the challenge.

Thanks again, fellow 'users' on this forum makes NEX 100% the system for me (despite my bitching ;) )
 

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