Help choosing UWA zoom

Discussion in 'Sony Alpha E-Mount Lenses' started by WT21, Jan 7, 2016.

  1. WT21

    WT21 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Aug 7, 2011
    I posted this on DPR, too, for those of you who visit both forums, you might have already seen this...

    Moving over full time to Sony, I am looking at options to replace my Oly 9-18 from m43. I would prefer a zoom, and I love the versatility of the 9-18 in terms of walk-around range, and the size is sure helpful (slow aperture, though). I would also prefer AF over MF.

    I know there are prime options (rokinon 12, Tuit 12), and I already have a Rokinon 8mm FE that I could de-fish, but I'd rather have an AF zoom.

    So, I see 3 main choices:
    • 10-18 on the a6000
    • 16-35 on the a7
    • Oly 9-18 on an m43 body
    The 10-18/4 on the a6000 is certainly a reasonable size and price, but the DXO marks when I compared to the Oly 9-18 were not great, and much weaker than the 16-35.

    The FE 16-35 on an a7 body. I KNOW this is a better lens, but I mostly use the UWA for travel, and it looks really big. I'd much rather stay with the a6000 size for travel. If I do the 16-35 on the a7, then do I bring two bodies, or only travel with the a7? While I like my a7 for output, I much prefer the a6000 shooting experience. And we are just talking travel photos here.

    Keep the Oly 9-18. In selling off my m43 gear, I can't seem to move this lens for anything other than $100 less than what I paid for it this past October. For a little more than $100 additional, I could buy a cheap m43 body (like an EPM2), and just glue it to the Oly 9-18. That lens + body would still be quite small, and the 9-18mm range (18-36mm eq) is more versatile on the long end anyway, than the 10-18. The downside is a different system, batteries, etc.

    Has anyone compared the 10-18 to these other two options. Thoughts/feedback/examples??
  2. NickCyprus

    NickCyprus Super Moderator

    Oct 11, 2012
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    Ah, the UWA Zoom quest...:D

    I'm in kinda the same boat, went from an Nex-6 (that I COULD afford the 10-18 to serve my uwa needs, good price) to an A7 (that I can't afford the 16-35 :( ). Now, I'm kinda stuck with my widest MF lens, the Minolta MD 24-35...
    I thought about going the 3rd party UWA Zoom (tamron/sigma/minolta 19-35, 18-35, 17-35) + lae3/4 adapter but having second thoughts on that...

    From all the reviews I've read/seen, the 10-18 is an excellent value and lens and it "works" on FF from 13/14mm to 16/17mm - just a thought since you prefer the A6000 ;)
    The 16-35 really looks huge on the a6000.

    I stumbled upon this recently:
    α6000 with SEL 10-18mm F4 OSS vs. α7 with FE 16-35mm F4 ZA OSS

    Haven't tried any of the lenses so not very relevant or helpful to your question and sorry for sharing my pain, lol :D
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  3. WT21

    WT21 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Aug 7, 2011
    Thanks. Yes, sadly, I was on my way to the 10-18 when I found that link, and saw the nasty corner smearing. Then I checked DXO, and the Oly 9-18 rated much better both in sharpness and vignetting. That's what got me double-guessing.

    I won't hold my breath for Sony to up-rev the 10-18 but, hey, Sigma -- how about an AF 12mm/2.0 lens with your reasonable pricing? Even 12/2.8? If it was one of those $299 list / $199 street Sigmas, I might be lured away from a zoom.
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  4. s10010001

    s10010001 New to TalkEmount

    Aug 7, 2015
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    Why ditch the m4/3? Is it not doing something you want? If you're intent on going all Sony just pick one and enjoy it. Would you be ok with the bigger A7+Lens and the price? If both of those are rubbing you the wrong way go with the A6000.

    Whatever it is you choose, don't DXO at all, don't look back just shoot! Enjoy it.

    I am not a pro, just a power user and I added a A6000 to my Canon lineup (5D, 50D and L Glass). After 6 months of using it I sold all my Canon gear. I love this little camera. :)
  5. MAubrey

    MAubrey TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Dec 9, 2013
    Bellingham, WA (displaced Canadian)
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    I miss my 9-18mm on a regular basis. I'd say pick up an E-PM2.
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  6. jai

    jai TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Feb 4, 2013
    I reckon if you want crazy wide shots take a tripod and your FE 28mm and shoot stictched panoramas.
  7. Amamba

    Amamba TalkEmount All-Pro

    Apr 13, 2013
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    I am too cheap to spend the $$$ on a good UWA lens ;) mainly shoot portraits anyway. So the 16/2.8+UWA adapter work for me, most of the time.

    If I was into the landscapes more, and wanted an UWA zoom (as opposed to prime), I would likely either spend the money on 10-18 or consider buying Canon EF-S 10-18 and the cheapest adaptor that allows aperture control. Per DXOMark, at 10mm and f5.6 they have near identical sharpness. Sony is better wide open but how often do you need to use a UWA wide open ?

    Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM on Canon EOS 7D Mark II vs Sony E 10-18mm f/4 on Sony A6000 | DxOMark

    The AF on an UWA lens is a nice-have, not a requirement. So with Canon you have a reasonably lightweight $300 lens with a $100 adapter, that is as good or better than a $800 Sony lens, just a tad larger. Without adapter, it's only 10mm longer and 15g heavier than Sony.
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  8. SpaceManSpiff

    SpaceManSpiff TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Dec 13, 2013
    Tucson, AZ
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    Since you want to go all Sony-- for a travel camera set-up why not go with the a6000 and the SELP1650 or the Zeiss 16-70? I would find the 10-18 pretty limiting (going from ultra-wide to wide); the 24mm eq. on the two zooms i mentioned are pretty darn wide and usefully longer.
  9. WT21

    WT21 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    Aug 7, 2011
    16mm isn't wide enough for what I need it for.

    LR6, though, has Rokinon lens profiles now, and I already have the Rok 8mm FE. I may play around with that a bit. The profile seems to defish the lens.
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