Help choosing a MF tele zoom lens (MD mount)

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by Grisu_HDH, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. Grisu_HDH

    Grisu_HDH TalkEmount Veteran

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    Dec 16, 2012
    Southern Germany
    Markus
    Dear Nexians.
    Want to have a travel tele zoom for a long time now...
    I want to have the e-mount AF Tamron 18-200mm F/3.5-6.3 Di III VC but it's too expensive... :crying:
    But can I choose an adapted MF MD mount lens instead???
    And if yes, which would be the best to get???
    I picked some on the bay to ask for your opinions about them:
    - Tokina AT-X 3,5-4,5/35-200mm Minolta MD --- 59,90 EUR
    - Super Albinar Auto MC 1:3.3 / f: 200mm / Minolta MD ---39,00 EUR
    - Vivitar 3,8/75-200 f. MD --- 79,00 EUR
    - Minolta MD: 200mm Auto Beroflex 1:3,5 ---69,00 EUR

    As you can see all are fixed priced with the possibility to offer a price suggestion...

    Or am I on the wrong path to choose a MF for a travel zoom due to missing image stabilization??? :confused: :confused: :confused: 

    Any help is appreciated...
    Grisu
     
  2. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    Look for Vivitar 70-150mm/3.8 too. It is small and optically pretty good. I am going to take one to Barcelona in two weeks. (With Sigma 19mm&30mm&Minolta 35-70mm/3.5).
     
  3. addieleman

    addieleman Passionate amateur Subscribing Member

    Nov 13, 2012
    Netherlands
    Ad Dieleman
    The Minolta MD (Rokkor) 200/4 is quite good and I've seen those for € 50 or less. Zoom lenses? Minolta MD 75-150/4 is excellent, as is the MD 50-135/3.5, both are not too expensive. I manage hand-held shots with these two in good light. I wouldn't go for the 75-200/4.5 nor the 70-210/4, quite heavy and more difficult to use succesfully. I'd say that everything over 135mm without stabilization is a challenge.
     
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  4. NickCyprus

    NickCyprus Super Moderator

    Oct 11, 2012
    Cyprus
    Nick
    Markus I'm slightly confused.
    First you said you want a tele zoom and then on the examples you wrote 3 out of 4 are fixed tele lenses...

    Tamron or SEL 18-200 is zoom lens that goes from wide (18mm) to tele (200mm) and I don't think you'll find a same quality lens (plus they are stabilizied!!!) in the adapted lens market
    I think good quality adapted tele zooms cover focal lenghts of more like mid tele to tele (ie. 50-70mm to 135-200mm) but my opinion for those is that in the end of the day you will end up missing the wide end for what you're looking for (an all-in-one lens)...
     
  5. Grisu_HDH

    Grisu_HDH TalkEmount Veteran

    397
    Dec 16, 2012
    Southern Germany
    Markus
    It's ok to be confused...
    Seems like i'm confused too...
    Cause you're right! I want a TELE ZOOM lens and chose wrong ones... :'(
    *shame*
     
  6. davect01

    davect01 Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Aug 20, 2011
    Fountain Hills, AZ
    Dave
    I have that above mentioned 70-150mm Vivitar.

    Love it.

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  7. michelb

    michelb TalkEmount Veteran

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    Oct 27, 2013
    Greater Montreal area in Quebec, Canada
    Michel Brien
    I am also confused

    In your signature it says you have 18-55 AND 55-210

    Why would you want
    - Tokina AT-X 3,5-4,5/35-200mm Minolta MD //////Already covered by your 18-55/55-210 combo
    - Super Albinar Auto MC 1:3.3 / f: 200mm / Minolta MD /////// F3,3 opening but still same as your 55-210
    - Vivitar 3,8/75-200 f. MD ////// F 3,8 aperture but still covered by your 55-210
    - Minolta MD: 200mm Auto Beroflex 1:3,5 /////// F3.5 aperture but also covered by your 55-210

    I hear the 55-210 is at its best around 200mm so you are gambling on the quality of these at around 200mm ( they may be weak due to age, coatings a little antique and mis-adapted to digital sensors and maybe even unusable due to chromatic aberrations at wide apertures
     
  8. Amamba

    Amamba TalkEmount All-Pro

    Apr 13, 2013
    SE MI
    I must either drink less coffee than Ad, or else my standards are lower... but I have managed to use 70-200/4 handheld with no problems. Did take a bit of getting used to.

    This was taken handheld, in a dimly lit room using built in flash bounced off the ceiling.

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    And that's in good light:

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    2013-09-008-2 by BugsDaddy, on Flickr

    I think 70-210/4 Macro is awesome.

    Another tele lens I have that's even easier to use is Kiron 80-200/4.5 with Zoom lock. It's a bit smaller and has a very pleasant, creamy bokeh. But it's not as sharp as the Minolta, although sharp enough. I mainly use Kiron for portraits, because of the bokeh and colors. This was taken with Kiron:

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    DSC04951.jpg by BugsDaddy, on Flickr
     
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  9. Grisu_HDH

    Grisu_HDH TalkEmount Veteran

    397
    Dec 16, 2012
    Southern Germany
    Markus
    @Michel: Ever heard of the JOMLS? -> Just-One-More-Lens-Syndrom??? :rolleyes: 
    I want to add a bit more zoom possibilities to my equipment and I love experimenting with lenses...
    I know that the modern Tamron e-mount would be the best but it's just available for more than 500 EUR here...

    I searched the bay for some
    - Minolta 75-150 4.0
    and I also found
    - Vivitar 1 70-210 1:2,8-4,0
    - Exakta 70-210 1:2,8-4,0 Macro

    What would suitable prices for these be?
    Are they worth the money? As far as I know the Vivitar 1s are very good but also very heavy/large...!?
     
  10. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    I wouldn't call Vivitar Series 1 70-210s travel telezooms. They are pretty good even by modern standards but heavy.
     
  11. Amamba

    Amamba TalkEmount All-Pro

    Apr 13, 2013
    SE MI
    A decent 2x TC is $15 on eBay, as long as you have good light I found the results to be very acceptable - you do lose contrast, but that's fixable in PP. Mine is Kiron MC7. So here's a cheap Tele option for you to experiment with.

    Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk
     
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