Showcase Choice of two Sony 50mm Lenses

Discussion in 'Native Lens Sample Image Showcase' started by Harry, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. Harry

    Harry New to TalkEmount

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    I want to purchase a 50mm lens for my A6000. Sony currently has two offerings:
    SEL50F18F and the 50mm f/1.8 OSS.

    One is full frame, the other is not. The full frame is less expensive. I believe the OSS was designed for the A6000 camera type. Is there some type of trade off technically and performance wise if I select the SEL50F18F OVER THE 50mm f/1.8 OSS ?

    Thank you in advance for any assistance.
     
  2. Kiwi Paul

    Kiwi Paul TalkEmount Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Paul
    The OSS APS-C lens is designed to be used with the A6xxx cameras and has image stabilization, the full frame lens doesn't have image stabilization.
    I've not used either of these lenses so I can't comment on the performance or IQ of them.
    If you don't need OSS (stabilization) the full frame lens can be used if you ever go for full frame.
    Here in the UK the full frame version is dearer than the APS-C version.
     
  3. Harry

    Harry New to TalkEmount

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    Thank you for your input.
     
  4. davect01

    davect01 Super Moderator Subscribing Member

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    Dave

    All reports are that the FF 50mm has a grat image, but as paul says has no stabilization and is slow to AF.

    I have the APS-C 50mm and have never been disappointed.
     
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  5. Harry

    Harry New to TalkEmount

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    That's what I need to know. Thanks I'm leaning that way but wanted to hear from users regarding their experience with the two lenses.
     
  6. Hawkman

    Hawkman TalkEmount All-Pro

    Sep 10, 2013
    Virginia, USA
    Steve
    I have the Sony E 50mm f/1.8 OSS (SEL50F18), the non-FE, APS-C version with Optical SteadyShot. And it is a great lens, with sharp pictures and very good bokeh. It is also one of the better values in Sony's E-mount lens lineup. Regularly US$298, it can often be found new for US$250.

    I believe I have seen some comparison somewhere (sorry that I cannot recall where nor find a link) that found the APS-C 50/1.8 OSS to be slightly sharper across the APS-C frame than the newer FE 50/1.8. But I'd bet that with sample variation they are close enough for that to be a wash. Most reports do indicate that the older 50/1.8 OSS has a more responsive AF motor and thus focuses a bit better than the newer FE 50/1.8. The other obvious difference, other than coverage - APS-C vs. Full-Frame - is the inclusion of OSS on the older APS-C version. If you have an A6000, or any other APS-C body other than the A6500, the inclusion of OSS on the lens could come in very handy.

    As such, although I admit to not having used the new FE 50/1.8, I would suggest that if you have an A6000 and don't have any immediate plans to jump to full-frame Sony body, then look for a good deal on the APS-C 50/1.8 OSS.

    If, however, you have any intent to go full-frame within a year, then perhaps the FE 50/1.8 (without OSS) would work for you, especially if funds are tight right now. It is actually US$50 cheaper than the APS-C OSS version. Not a big difference in price to be sure, and as such it probably wouldn't be hard to pick up the FE 50/1.8 cheaply AFTER you actually have a full;-frame body. If/when I get a full-frame A7 series body, I may just get the FE 50/1.8 myself.
     
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  7. WNG

    WNG TalkEmount Hall of Famer

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    Will
    Another point is if you plan to shoot videos. The OSS and near silent AF will be great pluses over the FE 50mm f/1.8. The FE is essentially an older external focus design. Its motor drive is slower and noisier. Optically they are both neck and neck. The photos from either will be excellent. In some markets the FE can be a bargain. The $100 you save is the compensation for not having the more advanced lens features.
     
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  8. Harry

    Harry New to TalkEmount

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    Thank you for the feedback.
     
  9. Harry

    Harry New to TalkEmount

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    They are about $248.00 USD here in Texas. Thanks for the input.
     
  10. WestOkid

    WestOkid TalkEmount All-Pro Subscribing Member

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    Gary
  11. Harry

    Harry New to TalkEmount

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    Wow, that is some interesting test results. Thank you very much for providing that link.
     
  12. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta TalkEmount Regular

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    Emmanuel Peña
    I read a few days ago in a videoat youtub where they tried it the , that the autofocus seems to be very slow. What is true about that?

     
  13. addieleman

    addieleman Passionate amateur Subscribing Member

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    Ad Dieleman
    All of it. The FE 1.8/50 is by far the slowest autofocussing native Sony lens in AF-S mode, the FE macro 2.8/50 comes as a worthy second. In AF-C mode the FE 1.8/50 can be sufficiently fast if it only needs to adjust for slight subject movement, but refocussing on a different subject is again slow. I guess you can find more than 10 youtube videos demonstrating the glacial AF. Manual focus is not a pleasant experience either, it has some backlash which makes focussing a bit of a pain, and the ring doesn't operate very smoothly. Says someone spoilt by the oooooh-so beautiful Loxia 2/50 :). Mind you, this is my experience with the 1.8/50 on the A7R2, both upgraded to the latest firmware versions.
     
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  14. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta TalkEmount Regular

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    Emmanuel Peña
    Sound terrible, like a nightmore.

    The bad of all this is that there is not a decent 50mm, with AF and affordable for the Sony FF. I'm thinking in return to the E-system and I was thinking about an A7rII or A7sII, I can use the manual mode without problem, but there are paid work situations where I can not lose a shot.

    The A7x + Zeiss kit escapes much of my budget, I'll have to go for the A6500 and the Sel50f18
     
  15. WNG

    WNG TalkEmount Hall of Famer

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    Will
    If you are in need of a 50-55mm focal range for commercial work with full-frame, then live with the pain of the price for the Zeiss 55mm f/1.8. Otherwise, research the third party AF 50mm f/1.4 offerings that are coming to FE-mount. Your switching to using an a6500 and the SEL5018 will not provide you with the proper field of view. It's equivalent to 75mm on full-frame.
     
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  16. bdbits

    bdbits TalkEmount Top Veteran

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    Bob
    Personally, I did very much like the SEL35F18 on APS-C, though. Which is roughly 52mm equivalent.
     
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  17. Manu-4Vendetta

    Manu-4Vendetta TalkEmount Regular

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    Emmanuel Peña
    Thanks. Im not a purist of the field of view for the 1.5 factor. I had the SEL50F18 with the NEX-5N and was a nice lens.

    Another possibility Im thinking is buy the A6500 +Sigma 30 1.4 + Sigma 60 2.8
     
  18. Hawkman

    Hawkman TalkEmount All-Pro

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    Virginia, USA
    Steve
    Now that I have (sooner than planned) jumped into full frame, I have picked up the FE 50mm f/1.8 (SEL50F18F) and can say that... I like it, a lot. Yes, the auto-focus is slow and hunts. But in most situations I’ve needed it, it has performed more than adequately. And the image quality seems to be more than good enough, especially given its entry-level price. It truly is a “nifty fifty”, for all that implies. I picked it up because, at the time, I needed a fast standard prime, I needed it quick, and I needed it cheap. The FE 50/1.8 fit the bill. No regrets.

    That said, I still believe that the older APS-C Sony E 50mm f/1.8 OSS is the better choice for an APS-C Sony body like the A6000-series or any of the NEX line. It was more purpose-built for APS-C mirrorless use and performs fantastically as such. As Gary noted, it was one of the best performing lenses for APS-C E-mount for quite some time, and still remains in most “Top 5” lists for the system in APS-C, particularly for sharpness.

    I haven’t tested the FE 50/1.8 on my APS-C bodies yet - haven’t seen the need - but when/if I do, I’ll be sure to share my results/thoughts here.
     
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  19. AlwaysOnAuto

    AlwaysOnAuto TalkEmount All-Pro

    Feb 17, 2015
    Dang it guys, now you have me thinking I need another 50, native no less.

    I think what I need to do is break out my TAP and use it with some of the 50's I already have.
     
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