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Advice on legacy 50mm?

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by WT21, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. WT21

    WT21 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    610
    Aug 7, 2011
    I have two legacy 50s: Takumar 50/1.4 and Rokkor-X 45/2

    The Takumar is by far my favorite. Easy to find the ap and focus ring while looking through the vf. Great sharpness starting around 2.0 and on. I like the color. But it flares like it's going out of style -- especially with the Sony patented purple flare.

    The Rokkor-X flares less, but isn't as sharp, and the ap and focus rings are small and close together.

    I could just keep them both, but was wondering if anyone had another cheap 50 to recommend. One that maybe is a combo of the two above? Sharp, less (or very little or no) flare, easy to find the ap and focus rings? Good color and contrast?

    The ones I can think of are:
    • Oly OM 50/1.4 -- my experience with OMs are not so contrasty
    • Canon FD 50/1.4 -- I'm thinking this might be a contender, though I find their focus rings not smooth
    • Nikon MF 50/1.4 -- I don't know anything about Nikon lenses
    • Pentax K-mount 50/1.4?? -- maybe like a Tak, but with less flare??
    • Mionolta/Rokkor MD 50/1.4 -- I've never tried one
    Anyone use these on an a7? Any report on sharpness, handling, color, contrast?

    edit: found an FM thread http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1299924/0

    Also found this site which has some 50s, and other FLs as well as some of the native glass: http://erphotoreview.com/wordpress/?cat=133

    Still open to people's opinions/experiences, though.
     
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  2. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    Add Contax and Yashica ML to your list. I have great liking to Yashica ML 50mm/2 but that may not be fast enough for you and I have Nex-7. The Contax one is pricey compared to others.
     
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  3. roundball

    roundball TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Oct 8, 2013
    USA
    Can't speak to the others but you'd have to fight me to get my Canon FDn 50/1.4
    :)
     
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  4. WT21

    WT21 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    610
    Aug 7, 2011
    I don't mind 2.0 if it's sharp wide open, but in my experience, the legacy lenses need to stop down one stop (or at least one click) to get out of the "glowy" range
     
  5. WT21

    WT21 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    610
    Aug 7, 2011
    Are you using it on an a7 type? If so, how's the flare?
     
  6. roundball

    roundball TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Oct 8, 2013
    USA
    Used mine on Canon A1 film cameras back in the 80s, now use them on NEX-7's...not a pixel peeper but have never noticed any issues.
     
  7. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    I try to take a few test photos with mine. There are a couple of real word photos in the camera right now but they are at f:4.
     
  8. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Sep 14, 2012
    Northeast Ohio
    Kevin
    Canon sees the most use for me. I really enjoy them even if the focus ring is not as smooth as the minolta. I have (4) 55 1.2 and (2) 50 1.4 and one 50 3.5 macro
     
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  9. WT21

    WT21 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    610
    Aug 7, 2011
    I just went out to test with my 50/3.5 macro. I do like the sharpness and color, and the coatings seem to be OK with the sun in the frame, but my biggest complains with the FDn lenses has always been the focus ring...

    I still might try the 50/1.4
     
  10. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Sep 14, 2012
    Northeast Ohio
    Kevin
    You can always try the older FL mounted lenses. They have an all metal ring. It's a bit smoother in my opinion. The FL 55 1.2 and the 50 1.4 are found pretty easy on eBay for not too much money. Flare is a bit more, I don't think the coatings are as good as the newer FD's but they are sharp.
     
  11. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Sep 14, 2012
    Northeast Ohio
    Kevin
    There was a review done by someone in the Sony a7 facebook page comparing the fd 50 1.4 to the zeiss 55 1.8. It was a great review and showed how little differences there were between the two lenses. Of course the corners was a problem, but for the price you can't beat it. I have both lenses. The review is pretty spot on.
     
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  12. addieleman

    addieleman Passionate amateur

    Nov 13, 2012
    Netherlands
    Ad Dieleman
    I'd guess that's almost universally true indeed. The ones I like are the Minolta MC Rokkor(-X) 50mm 1:1.4 and the Canon FDn 50mm 1:1.4. My Canon focusses smoothly BTW. All the others I have are not so great at around f/2, including almost all Minolta MD 50/1.4, MD/MC 50/1.7, MC/MD 50/2 lenses, a Yashica 50/1.7, Konica 40/1.8, Canon 50/1.8 (excellent stopped down), Nikkor 50/1.8 AI (don't get where its great reputation comes from). I once had a Nikkor 50/1.2 which was fine at f/2 but the Minolta MC 50/1.4 was almost as contrasty and almost as sharp in the center and sharper in the corners, so I freed up 300 Euros by selling off the Nikkor :). My Olympus Zuiko 40/2 is very nice at f/2.8 but not at f/2. Etcetera, etcetera. There's a plethora of options when looking for a 50mm legacy lens and preferences differ greatly amongst those who use them.

    So it is possible to get good image quality at f/2 by spending less than 100 dollars/Euros. If you want the glow out of the way at f/1.4 you might have to spring for Leica Summilux-R or Contax lenses and they are in a different price range as you're probably aware of; I have no experience with these.
     
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  13. WT21

    WT21 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    610
    Aug 7, 2011
    My Takumar 50/1.4, btw, is amazingly sharp 2.0 and onwards. It just flares too easily.
     
  14. xXx1

    xXx1 TalkEmount All-Pro

    Jan 15, 2013
    Here are some samples of Yashica ML 50mm/2
    https://www.talkemount.com/threads/11006/
     
  15. BrorSvensson

    BrorSvensson TalkEmount Regular

    106
    Feb 6, 2015
    nikkors 50mm 1.4 ais is amazing
     
  16. Deadbear77

    Deadbear77 TalkEmount Hall of Famer

    Sep 14, 2012
    Northeast Ohio
    Kevin
    I have the old 35 1.4 ais it's also amazing. Best 35 I've used.
     
  17. BrorSvensson

    BrorSvensson TalkEmount Regular

    106
    Feb 6, 2015
    i want that lens so bad, im really bummed that i managed to brake my 50 today. But i guess its time for a 1.2 now though.
     
  18. eno789

    eno789 TalkEmount Top Veteran

    720
    Jan 1, 2012
    NoCal, USA
    Brian
    On full frame, sometimes I feel F2 is fast enough, even for shallow DoF shot. Two F2'ish 50mm I like:

    1) Olympus OM Zuiko 50mm f/1.8 "made in japan" version;
    2) Nikon Nikkor 50mm f/2 AI or even pre-AI.

    They are cheap, and sharp wide open.
     
  19. lenshoarder

    lenshoarder TalkEmount Veteran

    297
    Feb 7, 2012
    Here's tests of most of those. Personally, I would go with the OM or the FD.

    http://www.lenshoard.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=2
     
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